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2003-05-13 22:16:24-07:00 - Re: If Spike moves over to Angel... - (Conor Foley <justaduckyguy@cox.net>)


Angel left Buffy. For their own good. So Spike might do it. "poldy" <poldy@kfu.com> wrote in message news:poldy-177F78.22150213052003@netnews.attbi.com... > ...that must mean Buffy is dying. Because Spike would not leave her. > He went to the other side of the world to get his soul for her. Just > not gonna leave her after all they've been through.

2003-05-14 05:15:02+00:00 - If Spike moves over to Angel... - (poldy <poldy@kfu.com>)


...that must mean Buffy is dying. Because Spike would not leave her. He went to the other side of the world to get his soul for her. Just not gonna leave her after all they've been through.

2003-05-14 07:25:00-07:00 - Re: If Spike moves over to Angel... - (jillun@hotmail.com)


"JoAnn Peeler" <jpeeler@tampabay.rr.com> wrote in message news:<alpwa.149552$My6.2544894@twister.tampabay.rr.com>... > "MP" <u_n_v_my_body@hotmail.com> wrote in message > news:3ec1f2ef$0$25389$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au... > > ..or she might die. > > > > "Conor Foley" <justaduckyguy@cox.net> wrote in message > > news:Aikwa.25272$fm4.15900@fed1read06... > > > Angel left Buffy. For their own good. So Spike might do it. > > > > > > "poldy" <poldy@kfu.com> wrote in message > > > news:poldy-177F78.22150213052003@netnews.attbi.com... > > > > ...that must mean Buffy is dying. Because Spike would not leave her. > > > > He went to the other side of the world to get his soul for her. Just > > > > not gonna leave her after all they've been through. > > > > > > > Or he finally figures out that there is only on souled vampire in her > future, and he isn't it. Or James Marsters can come to act in Angel and SMG won't.

2003-05-14 11:00:22+00:00 - Re: If Spike moves over to Angel... - (JoAnn Peeler <jpeeler@tampabay.rr.com>)


"MP" <u_n_v_my_body@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:3ec1f2ef$0$25389$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au... > ..or she might die. > > "Conor Foley" <justaduckyguy@cox.net> wrote in message > news:Aikwa.25272$fm4.15900@fed1read06... > > Angel left Buffy. For their own good. So Spike might do it. > > > > "poldy" <poldy@kfu.com> wrote in message > > news:poldy-177F78.22150213052003@netnews.attbi.com... > > > ...that must mean Buffy is dying. Because Spike would not leave her. > > > He went to the other side of the world to get his soul for her. Just > > > not gonna leave her after all they've been through. > > > > Or he finally figures out that there is only on souled vampire in her future, and he isn't it. -- JoAnn Peeler

2003-05-14 12:10:01-07:00 - Re: If Spike moves over to Angel... - (reldevik@usa.net)


poldy <poldy@kfu.com> wrote in message news:<poldy-177F78.22150213052003@netnews.attbi.com>... > ...that must mean Buffy is dying. Because Spike would not leave her. > He went to the other side of the world to get his soul for her. Just > not gonna leave her after all they've been through. --Did it ever occur to you that some thing that happen in the finale might have a bearing on this? In case you're unspoiled I'll refrain from mentioning them, but see how you feel about this in a week. I'm spoiled and I can see why this would happen. Clairel

2003-05-14 12:26:33-07:00 - Re: If Spike moves over to Angel... - (reldevik@usa.net)


fylmfan@aol.comspam (Rose) wrote in message news:<20030514084936.09219.00000006@mb-m13.aol.com>... > >Subject: Re: If Spike moves over to Angel... > >From: "JoAnn Peeler" jpeeler@tampabay.rr.com > >Date: 5/14/2003 4:00 AM Pacific Daylight Time > >Message-id: <alpwa.149552$My6.2544894@twister.tampabay.rr.com> > > > >"MP" <u_n_v_my_body@hotmail.com> wrote in message > >news:3ec1f2ef$0$25389$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au... > >> ..or she might die. > >> > >> "Conor Foley" <justaduckyguy@cox.net> wrote in message > >> news:Aikwa.25272$fm4.15900@fed1read06... > >> > Angel left Buffy. For their own good. So Spike might do it. > >> > > >> > "poldy" <poldy@kfu.com> wrote in message > >> > news:poldy-177F78.22150213052003@netnews.attbi.com... > >> > > ...that must mean Buffy is dying. Because Spike would not leave her. > >> > > He went to the other side of the world to get his soul for her. Just > >> > > not gonna leave her after all they've been through. > >> > > >> > > >Or he finally figures out that there is only on souled vampire in her > >future, and he isn't it. > > > > You say "finally figures out" as if he should have known better. Well, he > thought he did know better. He told Buffy in First Date that his eyes were > clear, and then she dropped a vague hint at the end of the ep that she needed > him to stay for perhaps vaguely romantic reasons. She asked him to hold her > all night last week. She starts a "What did last night mean to you" > conversation with him, and then tells him she was "there with him" and gives > him a "maybe when." Spike didn't get his own hopes up. Buffy raised them > herself. It's not unrealistic for Spike to think B and A are over when they've > been apart for four years. I'd think a guy was kinda crazy if I asked him to > hold me, started a Relationship Talk, implied I was heavily interested in him, > and he said "Yeah but aren't you still madly in love with your bf from four > years ago?" > > Spike's insightful but he's not a mind reader. > > > > > > >-- > >JoAnn Peeler > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rose > Obsessed with PodGiles --Rose, that's the most astute and lucidly-reasoned post you've made in a long time. Congratulations. And the post to which you were replying was incredibly snide and unreasonable. Thanks for illuminating all the reasons why. Clairel

2003-05-14 12:49:36+00:00 - Re: If Spike moves over to Angel... - (fylmfan@aol.comspam)


>Subject: Re: If Spike moves over to Angel... >From: "JoAnn Peeler" jpeeler@tampabay.rr.com >Date: 5/14/2003 4:00 AM Pacific Daylight Time >Message-id: <alpwa.149552$My6.2544894@twister.tampabay.rr.com> > >"MP" <u_n_v_my_body@hotmail.com> wrote in message >news:3ec1f2ef$0$25389$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au... >> ..or she might die. >> >> "Conor Foley" <justaduckyguy@cox.net> wrote in message >> news:Aikwa.25272$fm4.15900@fed1read06... >> > Angel left Buffy. For their own good. So Spike might do it. >> > >> > "poldy" <poldy@kfu.com> wrote in message >> > news:poldy-177F78.22150213052003@netnews.attbi.com... >> > > ...that must mean Buffy is dying. Because Spike would not leave her. >> > > He went to the other side of the world to get his soul for her. Just >> > > not gonna leave her after all they've been through. >> > >> > >Or he finally figures out that there is only on souled vampire in her >future, and he isn't it. > You say "finally figures out" as if he should have known better. Well, he thought he did know better. He told Buffy in First Date that his eyes were clear, and then she dropped a vague hint at the end of the ep that she needed him to stay for perhaps vaguely romantic reasons. She asked him to hold her all night last week. She starts a "What did last night mean to you" conversation with him, and then tells him she was "there with him" and gives him a "maybe when." Spike didn't get his own hopes up. Buffy raised them herself. It's not unrealistic for Spike to think B and A are over when they've been apart for four years. I'd think a guy was kinda crazy if I asked him to hold me, started a Relationship Talk, implied I was heavily interested in him, and he said "Yeah but aren't you still madly in love with your bf from four years ago?" Spike's insightful but he's not a mind reader. >-- >JoAnn Peeler > > > > > > > > Rose Obsessed with PodGiles

2003-05-14 14:47:19+00:00 - Re: If Spike moves over to Angel... - (HeKS <heks_@hotmail.com>)


"JoAnn Peeler" <jpeeler@tampabay.rr.com> wrote in message news:alpwa.149552$My6.2544894@twister.tampabay.rr.com... > "MP" <u_n_v_my_body@hotmail.com> wrote in message > news:3ec1f2ef$0$25389$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au... > > ..or she might die. > > > > "Conor Foley" <justaduckyguy@cox.net> wrote in message > > news:Aikwa.25272$fm4.15900@fed1read06... > > > Angel left Buffy. For their own good. So Spike might do it. > > > > > > "poldy" <poldy@kfu.com> wrote in message > > > news:poldy-177F78.22150213052003@netnews.attbi.com... > > > > ...that must mean Buffy is dying. Because Spike would not leave her. > > > > He went to the other side of the world to get his soul for her. Just > > > > not gonna leave her after all they've been through. > > > > > > > Or he finally figures out that there is only on souled vampire in her > future, and he isn't it. > This seems like the most likely scenario. Buffy is still apparently in love with Angel . . . though that kiss seemed pretty out of the blue. At first I thought we were seeing what the First was making Spike see and they didn't actually kiss . . . but I'm probably wrong about this. So chances are Spike realizes that him and Buffy will never be a couple so he takes off to L.A. Also, it's VERY unlikely that Buffy will die. She's already died twice . . . doing it again would just be annoying and stupid . . . especially since the producers of AtS have expressed hopes that SMG will make guest appearances on Angel (the show). If she dies at the end of BtVS then they would have to do another mystical resurrection . . . again, that would just be annoying and stupid. And finally, plans have not been dismissed to eventually do a Buffy movie the way Joss originally intended and the actors, from what I've read, seem like they would like to do it. So killing her seems unlikely. HeKS

2003-05-14 16:06:28+00:00 - Re: If Spike moves over to Angel... - (PJ Browning <antarian@pacbell.net>)


In article <poldy-177F78.22150213052003@netnews.attbi.com>, poldy <poldy@kfu.com> wrote: > ...that must mean Buffy is dying. Because Spike would not leave her. > He went to the other side of the world to get his soul for her. Just > not gonna leave her after all they've been through. 1. drop IF. Spike is moving to Angel. it's official 2. Buffy won't die. it's cliche at this point. plus how could Sarah publicly claim to be open to guest spots in the future if she's going to die. she said it because she knows that Joss wouldn't kill her. 3. Angel left Buffy so why couldn't Spike. and likely for the same reason, so she can have something resembling a normal life with normal relationships.

2003-05-14 17:40:45+10:00 - Re: If Spike moves over to Angel... - (MP <u_n_v_my_body@hotmail.com>)


..or she might die. "Conor Foley" <justaduckyguy@cox.net> wrote in message news:Aikwa.25272$fm4.15900@fed1read06... > Angel left Buffy. For their own good. So Spike might do it. > > "poldy" <poldy@kfu.com> wrote in message > news:poldy-177F78.22150213052003@netnews.attbi.com... > > ...that must mean Buffy is dying. Because Spike would not leave her. > > He went to the other side of the world to get his soul for her. Just > > not gonna leave her after all they've been through. > >

2003-05-14 18:09:29+00:00 - Re: If Spike moves over to Angel... - (Growltiger <tyger@never.invalid>)


Previously on alt.tv.angel, antarian@pacbell.net wrote in article <140520030907169406%antarian@pacbell.net>... [elided] > > 2. Buffy won't die. it's cliche at this point. plus how could Sarah > publicly claim to be open to guest spots in the future if she's going > to die. she said it because she knows that Joss wouldn't kill her. > [elided] I agree that killing Buffy a third time would not be helpful, but we have to remember that the death of a character has never been a showstopper for future appearances. -- Be seeing you, Growltiger

2003-05-15 11:53:02-05:00 - Re: If Spike moves over to Angel... - (Juleen <REMOVEsunryse@centurytel.net>)


Conor Foley wrote: > Angel left Buffy. For their own good. So Spike might do it. hopefully Spike will leave Buffy for his own good. Jul