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2003-04-09 16:10:29-07:00 - Shiny Happy People Spoiler - (Carmikl <Carmikl@rcn.com>)


Space: ; ; ; ; ; ; ; ; ; ; ; ; ; ; ; ; ; ; ; ; ; ; ; ; Seems like the most logical thing for Fred to do is call her new friend Willow again. Help is only a couple of hours away.

2003-04-09 18:55:45-07:00 - Re: Call Willow (Shiny Happy People Spoiler) - (Carmikl <Carmikl@rcn.com>)


Growltiger wrote: > > Previously on alt.tv.angel, Carmikl@rcn.com wrote in article > <3E94A865.5E17DC3F@rcn.com>... > > Space: > > ; > > ; > > ; > > ; > > ; > > ; > > ; > > ; > > ; > > ; > > ; > > ; > > ; > > ; > > ; > > ; > > ; > > ; > > ; > > ; > > ; > > ; > > ; > > ; > > Seems like the most logical thing for Fred to do is call her new friend > > Willow again. Help is only a couple of hours away. > > > > When Fred was in her car the first thought that came to mind was > Sunnydale was the place to go if I were Fred. > -- She knows there's all kinds of help in Sunnydale including Uberwitch Willow, Faith, and Buffy (The Slayer that defeated Glory).

2003-04-09 18:56:01-07:00 - Re: Call Willow (Shiny Happy People Spoiler) - (Carmikl <Carmikl@rcn.com>)


Growltiger wrote: > > Previously on alt.tv.angel, Carmikl@rcn.com wrote in article > <3E94A865.5E17DC3F@rcn.com>... > > Space: > > ; > > ; > > ; > > ; > > ; > > ; > > ; > > ; > > ; > > ; > > ; > > ; > > ; > > ; > > ; > > ; > > ; > > ; > > ; > > ; > > ; > > ; > > ; > > ; > > Seems like the most logical thing for Fred to do is call her new friend > > Willow again. Help is only a couple of hours away. > > > > When Fred was in her car the first thought that came to mind was > Sunnydale was the place to go if I were Fred. > -- She knows there's all kinds of help in Sunnydale including Uberwitch Willow, Faith, and Buffy (The Slayer that defeated Glory).

2003-04-09 19:18:02-07:00 - Re: Shiny Happy People Spoiler - (Carmikl <Carmikl@rcn.com>)


Morpheus wrote: > > "Carmikl" <Carmikl@rcn.com> wrote in message > news:3E94A865.5E17DC3F@rcn.com... > > Space: > > ; > > ; > > ; > > ; > > ; > > ; > > ; > > ; > > ; > > ; > > ; > > ; > > ; > > ; > > ; > > ; > > ; > > ; > > ; > > ; > > ; > > ; > > ; > > ; > > Seems like the most logical thing for Fred to do is call her new friend > > Willow again. Help is only a couple of hours away. > > She probably thought that it was safer to stay in LA and fight Jasmine than > to make the perilous drive to another network. She's already made the call once, and Willow has made the drive.

2003-04-09 19:19:19-07:00 - Re: Call Willow (Shiny Happy People Spoiler) - (Carmikl <Carmikl@rcn.com>)


Snuggles wrote: > > In article <3E94CF21.1F8C5E54@rcn.com>, Carmikl <Carmikl@rcn.com> > wrote: > > > Growltiger wrote: > > > > > > Previously on alt.tv.angel, Carmikl@rcn.com wrote in article > > > <3E94A865.5E17DC3F@rcn.com>... > > > > Space: > > > > ; > > > > ; > > > > ; > > > > ; > > > > ; > > > > ; > > > > ; > > > > ; > > > > ; > > > > ; > > > > ; > > > > ; > > > > ; > > > > ; > > > > ; > > > > ; > > > > ; > > > > ; > > > > ; > > > > ; > > > > ; > > > > ; > > > > ; > > > > ; > > > > Seems like the most logical thing for Fred to do is call her new friend > > > > Willow again. Help is only a couple of hours away. > > > > > > > > > > When Fred was in her car the first thought that came to mind was > > > Sunnydale was the place to go if I were Fred. > > > -- > > She knows there's all kinds of help in Sunnydale including Uberwitch > > Willow, Faith, and Buffy (The Slayer that defeated Glory). > > I think you meant Giles, the librarian that defeated Glory. No, he defeated Ben.

2003-04-09 21:01:25-05:00 - Re: Call Willow (Shiny Happy People Spoiler) - (Snuggles <postmaster@spamcop.net>)


In article <3E94CF21.1F8C5E54@rcn.com>, Carmikl <Carmikl@rcn.com> wrote: > Growltiger wrote: > > > > Previously on alt.tv.angel, Carmikl@rcn.com wrote in article > > <3E94A865.5E17DC3F@rcn.com>... > > > Space: > > > ; > > > ; > > > ; > > > ; > > > ; > > > ; > > > ; > > > ; > > > ; > > > ; > > > ; > > > ; > > > ; > > > ; > > > ; > > > ; > > > ; > > > ; > > > ; > > > ; > > > ; > > > ; > > > ; > > > ; > > > Seems like the most logical thing for Fred to do is call her new friend > > > Willow again. Help is only a couple of hours away. > > > > > > > When Fred was in her car the first thought that came to mind was > > Sunnydale was the place to go if I were Fred. > > -- > She knows there's all kinds of help in Sunnydale including Uberwitch > Willow, Faith, and Buffy (The Slayer that defeated Glory). I think you meant Giles, the librarian that defeated Glory.

2003-04-09 21:22:27-05:00 - Re: Call Willow (Shiny Happy People Spoiler) - (Snuggles <postmaster@spamcop.net>)


In article <3E94D4A7.E4342A42@rcn.com>, Carmikl <Carmikl@rcn.com> wrote: > Snuggles wrote: > > > > In article <3E94CF21.1F8C5E54@rcn.com>, Carmikl <Carmikl@rcn.com> > > wrote: > > > > > Growltiger wrote: > > > > > > > > Previously on alt.tv.angel, Carmikl@rcn.com wrote in article > > > > <3E94A865.5E17DC3F@rcn.com>... > > > > > Space: > > > > > ; > > > > > ; > > > > > ; > > > > > ; > > > > > ; > > > > > ; > > > > > ; > > > > > ; > > > > > ; > > > > > ; > > > > > ; > > > > > ; > > > > > ; > > > > > ; > > > > > ; > > > > > ; > > > > > ; > > > > > ; > > > > > ; > > > > > ; > > > > > ; > > > > > ; > > > > > ; > > > > > ; > > > > > Seems like the most logical thing for Fred to do is call her new > > > > > friend > > > > > Willow again. Help is only a couple of hours away. > > > > > > > > > > > > > When Fred was in her car the first thought that came to mind was > > > > Sunnydale was the place to go if I were Fred. > > > > -- > > > She knows there's all kinds of help in Sunnydale including Uberwitch > > > Willow, Faith, and Buffy (The Slayer that defeated Glory). > > > > I think you meant Giles, the librarian that defeated Glory. > > No, he defeated Ben. Ben was just collateral damage, the target was Glory.

2003-04-09 22:07:58-04:00 - Re: Shiny Happy People Spoiler - (Morpheus <carterr@miskatonic.edu>)


"Carmikl" <Carmikl@rcn.com> wrote in message news:3E94A865.5E17DC3F@rcn.com... > Space: > ; > ; > ; > ; > ; > ; > ; > ; > ; > ; > ; > ; > ; > ; > ; > ; > ; > ; > ; > ; > ; > ; > ; > ; > Seems like the most logical thing for Fred to do is call her new friend > Willow again. Help is only a couple of hours away. She probably thought that it was safer to stay in LA and fight Jasmine than to make the perilous drive to another network.

2003-04-09 23:03:59-04:00 - Re: Shiny Happy People Spoiler - (Morpheus <carterr@miskatonic.edu>)


"Carmikl" <Carmikl@rcn.com> wrote in message news:3E94D45A.30347D7A@rcn.com... > Morpheus wrote: > > > > "Carmikl" <Carmikl@rcn.com> wrote in message > > news:3E94A865.5E17DC3F@rcn.com... > > > Space: > > > ; > > > ; > > > ; > > > ; > > > ; > > > ; > > > ; > > > ; > > > ; > > > ; > > > ; > > > ; > > > ; > > > ; > > > ; > > > ; > > > ; > > > ; > > > ; > > > ; > > > ; > > > ; > > > ; > > > ; > > > Seems like the most logical thing for Fred to do is call her new friend > > > Willow again. Help is only a couple of hours away. > > > > She probably thought that it was safer to stay in LA and fight Jasmine than > > to make the perilous drive to another network. > > She's already made the call once, and Willow has made the drive. Willow was granted special leave by the network demons. A lesser mortal wouldn't have had a chance.

2003-04-09 23:05:09-04:00 - Re: Call Willow (Shiny Happy People Spoiler) - (Morpheus <carterr@miskatonic.edu>)


"Snuggles" <postmaster@spamcop.net> wrote in message news:postmaster-767EE8.21222709042003@husk.cso.niu.edu... > In article <3E94D4A7.E4342A42@rcn.com>, Carmikl <Carmikl@rcn.com> > wrote: > > > Snuggles wrote: > > > > > > In article <3E94CF21.1F8C5E54@rcn.com>, Carmikl <Carmikl@rcn.com> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > Growltiger wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Previously on alt.tv.angel, Carmikl@rcn.com wrote in article > > > > > <3E94A865.5E17DC3F@rcn.com>... > > > > > > Space: > > > > > > ; > > > > > > ; > > > > > > ; > > > > > > ; > > > > > > ; > > > > > > ; > > > > > > ; > > > > > > ; > > > > > > ; > > > > > > ; > > > > > > ; > > > > > > ; > > > > > > ; > > > > > > ; > > > > > > ; > > > > > > ; > > > > > > ; > > > > > > ; > > > > > > ; > > > > > > ; > > > > > > ; > > > > > > ; > > > > > > ; > > > > > > ; > > > > > > Seems like the most logical thing for Fred to do is call her new > > > > > > friend > > > > > > Willow again. Help is only a couple of hours away. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > When Fred was in her car the first thought that came to mind was > > > > > Sunnydale was the place to go if I were Fred. > > > > > -- > > > > She knows there's all kinds of help in Sunnydale including Uberwitch > > > > Willow, Faith, and Buffy (The Slayer that defeated Glory). > > > > > > I think you meant Giles, the librarian that defeated Glory. > > > > No, he defeated Ben. > > Ben was just collateral damage, the target was Glory. Are you saying that there's some kind of link between Ben and Glory?

2003-04-09 23:12:13-07:00 - Re: Shiny Happy People Spoiler - (sam_14042@yahoo.com)


Carmikl <Carmikl@rcn.com> wrote in message news:<3E94A865.5E17DC3F@rcn.com>... > Space: > ; > ; > ; > ; > ; > ; > ; > ; > ; > ; > ; > ; > ; > ; > ; > ; > ; > ; > ; > ; > ; > ; > ; > ; > Seems like the most logical thing for Fred to do is call her new friend > Willow again. Help is only a couple of hours away. And when Willow shows up and becomes utterly devoted to serving this radiant Goddess of Peace and Love and Beauty, what does she do then?

2003-04-10 00:12:10-04:00 - Re: Call Willow (Shiny Happy People Spoiler) - (hwlabadiejr@nospam.highstream.net)


In article <Yb5la.4018$945.11678@tor-nn1.netcom.ca>, "Morpheus" <carterr@miskatonic.edu> wrote: >"Snuggles" <postmaster@spamcop.net> wrote in message >news:postmaster-767EE8.21222709042003@husk.cso.niu.edu... >> In article <3E94D4A7.E4342A42@rcn.com>, Carmikl <Carmikl@rcn.com> >> wrote: >> >> > Snuggles wrote: >> > > >> > > In article <3E94CF21.1F8C5E54@rcn.com>, Carmikl <Carmikl@rcn.com> >> > > wrote: >> > > >> > > > Growltiger wrote: >> > > > > >> > > > > Previously on alt.tv.angel, Carmikl@rcn.com wrote in article >> > > > > <3E94A865.5E17DC3F@rcn.com>... >> > > > > > Space: >> > > > > > ; >> > > > > > ; >> > > > > > ; >> > > > > > ; >> > > > > > ; >> > > > > > ; >> > > > > > ; >> > > > > > ; >> > > > > > ; >> > > > > > ; >> > > > > > ; >> > > > > > ; >> > > > > > ; >> > > > > > ; >> > > > > > ; >> > > > > > ; >> > > > > > ; >> > > > > > ; >> > > > > > ; >> > > > > > ; >> > > > > > ; >> > > > > > ; >> > > > > > ; >> > > > > > ; >> > > > > > Seems like the most logical thing for Fred to do is call her new >> > > > > > friend >> > > > > > Willow again. Help is only a couple of hours away. >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > When Fred was in her car the first thought that came to mind was >> > > > > Sunnydale was the place to go if I were Fred. >> > > > > -- >> > > > She knows there's all kinds of help in Sunnydale including Uberwitch >> > > > Willow, Faith, and Buffy (The Slayer that defeated Glory). >> > > >> > > I think you meant Giles, the librarian that defeated Glory. >> > >> > No, he defeated Ben. >> >> Ben was just collateral damage, the target was Glory. > >Are you saying that there's some kind of link between Ben and Glory? Connection, not link. Connection, as in the book and series, Connections by James Burke. HWL

2003-04-10 00:31:13+00:00 - Re: Shiny Happy People Spoiler - (Growltiger <tyger@never.invalid>)


Previously on alt.tv.angel, Carmikl@rcn.com wrote in article <3E94A865.5E17DC3F@rcn.com>... > Space: > ; > ; > ; > ; > ; > ; > ; > ; > ; > ; > ; > ; > ; > ; > ; > ; > ; > ; > ; > ; > ; > ; > ; > ; > Seems like the most logical thing for Fred to do is call her new friend > Willow again. Help is only a couple of hours away. > When Fred was in her car the first thought that came to mind was Sunnydale was the place to go if I were Fred. -- Be seeing you, Growltiger

2003-04-10 01:47:50-05:00 - Re: Shiny Happy People Spoiler - (Darwin Fish <a@a.edu>)


In article <21ced21e.0304092212.c2799d1@posting.google.com>, sam_14042@yahoo.com (Sam) wrote: > Carmikl <Carmikl@rcn.com> wrote in message news:<3E94A865.5E17DC3F@rcn.com>... > > Space: > > ; > > ; > > ; > > ; > > ; > > ; > > ; > > ; > > ; > > ; > > ; > > ; > > ; > > ; > > ; > > ; > > ; > > ; > > ; > > ; > > ; > > ; > > ; > > ; > > Seems like the most logical thing for Fred to do is call her new friend > > Willow again. Help is only a couple of hours away. > > And when Willow shows up and becomes utterly devoted to serving this > radiant Goddess of Peace and Love and Beauty, what does she do then? Fred: Willow, I need your help! Cordy just gave birth to Connor's hell-spawn child. Its enchants anyone who looks at it, making them think its a beautiful woman whose filled with love and puppies. But she's really filled with maggots and its kinda disgusting. Willow: Sounds like a simple glamour combined with a powerful love spell. Is she wearing a lettermen's jacket by any chance? Fred: Huh? Willow: Never mind. I'll fax you a reveal spell and a list of ingredants you'll need to break her love charm. Anything else? Fred: Willow, you're the greatest!!! Willow: Fred, I'm seeing someone. -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Let the Darwin Fishes swim!

2003-04-10 02:03:50+00:00 - Re: Shiny Happy People Spoiler - (Shorty <notrealshorty@hotmail.com>)


On Thu, 10 Apr 2003 00:31:13 GMT, Growltiger <tyger@never.invalid> wrote: >Previously on alt.tv.angel, Carmikl@rcn.com wrote in article ><3E94A865.5E17DC3F@rcn.com>... >> Space: >> ; >> ; >> ; >> ; >> ; >> ; >> ; >> ; >> ; >> ; >> ; >> ; >> ; >> ; >> ; >> ; >> ; >> ; >> ; >> ; >> ; >> ; >> ; >> ; >> Seems like the most logical thing for Fred to do is call her new friend >> Willow again. Help is only a couple of hours away. >> > >When Fred was in her car the first thought that came to mind was >Sunnydale was the place to go if I were Fred. I was actually thinking exactly the same thing. Time to put in a call to Willow and Faith. Shorty ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "I used to believe these were real people -- well, not real people, because I'm eminently sane, but I believed that they could have been people I knew. But now? There's no interior life there. I don't get the sense that they think or feel really anything other than what the writers decide they should think or feel to get them from point A to point B, no matter how contradictory those thoughts and feelings are to the thoughts and feelings they had last week, last month, or last year." - http://www.televisionwithoutpity.com/story.cgi?show=12&story=4599

2003-04-10 02:20:52+00:00 - Re: Shiny Happy People Spoiler - (Cindy G <groganc@remove_this_celticnet.org>)


My thoughts exactly. I'd be calling Willow or headed in that direction cause "all ain't right". Good to see through the previews that Angel "sees" the real Jasmin next week, cause I don't think I could take another super sappy ep like this one again. "Growltiger" <tyger@never.invalid> wrote in message news:MPG.18fe5b1ccf71ab9a989fa8@netnews.attbi.com... > Previously on alt.tv.angel, Carmikl@rcn.com wrote in article > <3E94A865.5E17DC3F@rcn.com>... > > Space: > > ; > > ; > > ; > > ; > > ; > > ; > > ; > > ; > > ; > > ; > > ; > > ; > > ; > > ; > > ; > > ; > > ; > > ; > > ; > > ; > > ; > > ; > > ; > > ; > > Seems like the most logical thing for Fred to do is call her new friend > > Willow again. Help is only a couple of hours away. > > > > When Fred was in her car the first thought that came to mind was > Sunnydale was the place to go if I were Fred. > -- > Be seeing you, > Growltiger

2003-04-10 02:33:33+00:00 - Re: Shiny Happy People Spoiler - (rgorman@telusplanet.net)


On Thu, 10 Apr 2003 00:31:13 GMT, Growltiger <tyger@never.invalid> wrote: >Previously on alt.tv.angel, Carmikl@rcn.com wrote in article ><3E94A865.5E17DC3F@rcn.com>... >> Space: >> ; >> ; >> ; >> ; >> ; >> ; >> ; >> ; >> ; >> ; >> ; >> ; >> ; >> ; >> ; >> ; >> ; >> ; >> ; >> ; >> ; >> ; >> ; >> ; >> Seems like the most logical thing for Fred to do is call her new friend >> Willow again. Help is only a couple of hours away. >> > >When Fred was in her car the first thought that came to mind was >Sunnydale was the place to go if I were Fred. Well that makes sense. After all, it's not like they get television out of Los Angeles in Sunnydale. Oh...wait...

2003-04-10 04:29:27+00:00 - Re: Call Willow (Shiny Happy People Spoiler) - (Michael Chambers <scott@scottchambers.net>)


Ok now that really made me laugh... Scott > Are you saying that there's some kind of link between > Ben and Glory?

2003-04-10 04:53:22-07:00 - Re: Shiny Happy People Spoiler - (Carmikl <Carmikl@rcn.com>)


Sam wrote: > > Carmikl <Carmikl@rcn.com> wrote in message news:<3E94A865.5E17DC3F@rcn.com>... > > Space: > > ; > > ; > > ; > > ; > > ; > > ; > > ; > > ; > > ; > > ; > > ; > > ; > > ; > > ; > > ; > > ; > > ; > > ; > > ; > > ; > > ; > > ; > > ; > > ; > > Seems like the most logical thing for Fred to do is call her new friend > > Willow again. Help is only a couple of hours away. > > And when Willow shows up and becomes utterly devoted to serving this > radiant Goddess of Peace and Love and Beauty, what does she do then? Once forewarned that shouldn't be a problem. Willow would simply avoid contact with Jasmine or create some kind of protective spell to keep that from happening.

2003-04-10 05:11:32-07:00 - Re: Shiny Happy People Spoiler - (kenm47@ix.netcom.com)


Darwin Fish <a@a.edu> wrote in message news:<a-4EEFF5.01475010042003@husk.cso.niu.edu>... > In article <21ced21e.0304092212.c2799d1@posting.google.com>, > sam_14042@yahoo.com (Sam) wrote: > > > Carmikl <Carmikl@rcn.com> wrote in message news:<3E94A865.5E17DC3F@rcn.com>... > > > Space: > > > ; > > > ; > > > ; > > > ; > > > ; > > > ; > > > ; > > > ; > > > ; > > > ; > > > ; > > > ; > > > ; > > > ; > > > ; > > > ; > > > ; > > > ; > > > ; > > > ; > > > ; > > > ; > > > ; > > > ; > > > Seems like the most logical thing for Fred to do is call her new friend > > > Willow again. Help is only a couple of hours away. > > > > And when Willow shows up and becomes utterly devoted to serving this > > radiant Goddess of Peace and Love and Beauty, what does she do then? > > Fred: Willow, I need your help! Cordy just gave birth to Connor's > hell-spawn child. Its enchants anyone who looks at it, making them think > its a beautiful woman whose filled with love and puppies. But she's > really filled with maggots and its kinda disgusting. > > Willow: Sounds like a simple glamour combined with a powerful love > spell. Is she wearing a lettermen's jacket by any chance? > > Fred: Huh? > > Willow: Never mind. I'll fax you a reveal spell and a list of ingredants > you'll need to break her love charm. Anything else? > > Fred: Willow, you're the greatest!!! > > Willow: Fred, I'm seeing someone. If Marti calls in sick, send in Darwin Fish! Thanks for the chuckle. Ken

2003-04-10 08:39:08-05:00 - Re: Shiny Happy People Spoiler - (Darwin Fish <a@a.edu>)


In article <dTcla.17602$4P1.1574586@newsread2.prod.itd.earthlink.net>, "Chris Zabel" <alephnull@earthlink.net> wrote: > "Carmikl" <Carmikl@rcn.com> wrote in message > news:3E94A865.5E17DC3F@rcn.com... > > Space: > > ; > > ; > > ; > > ; > > ; > > ; > > ; > > ; > > ; > > ; > > ; > > ; > > ; > > ; > > ; > > ; > > ; > > ; > > ; > > ; > > ; > > ; > > ; > > ; > > Seems like the most logical thing for Fred to do is call her new friend > > Willow again. Help is only a couple of hours away. > > > That would make too much sense for this episode. People complained they > dumbed Connor down last week, this week they dropped Fred's intelligence > about 70 IQ points to fit the plot. How long has it been since Willow left? It seems like a few weeks since the activity of AI had enough impact on the local vampire/demon population to lower the cities homicide rate to the point where it was noticed by the local news. It could be Sunnydale has already become cut-off because of the First. However, they should have at least shown Fred try to call Willow.... -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Let the Darwin Fishes swim! www.darwin-fish.com/fish.html -------------------------------------------------------------------------

2003-04-10 09:13:17+00:00 - Re: Shiny Happy People Spoiler - (Jewel <jewel@nospamhere.com>)


On Wed, 09 Apr 2003 16:10:29 -0700, Carmikl <Carmikl@rcn.com> wrote: >Space: >; >; >; >; >; >; >; >; >; >; >; >; >; >; >; >; >; >; >; >; >; >; >; >; >Seems like the most logical thing for Fred to do is call her new friend >Willow again. Help is only a couple of hours away. What? 17 posts and *nobody* thought she ought to head back to the Psychiatrist Unit and join forces with The Called? -- Jewel

2003-04-10 09:41:01-07:00 - Re: Shiny Happy People Spoiler - (tnab76@yahoo.com)


Darwin Fish <a@a.edu> wrote in message news:<a-4EEFF5.01475010042003@husk.cso.niu.edu>... > In article <21ced21e.0304092212.c2799d1@posting.google.com>, > sam_14042@yahoo.com (Sam) wrote: > > > Carmikl <Carmikl@rcn.com> wrote in message news:<3E94A865.5E17DC3F@rcn.com>... > > > Space: > > > ; > > > ; > > > ; > > > ; > > > ; > > > ; > > > ; > > > ; > > > ; > > > ; > > > ; > > > ; > > > ; > > > ; > > > ; > > > ; > > > ; > > > ; > > > ; > > > ; > > > ; > > > ; > > > ; > > > ; > > > Seems like the most logical thing for Fred to do is call her new friend > > > Willow again. Help is only a couple of hours away. > > > > And when Willow shows up and becomes utterly devoted to serving this > > radiant Goddess of Peace and Love and Beauty, what does she do then? > > Fred: Willow, I need your help! Cordy just gave birth to Connor's > hell-spawn child. Its enchants anyone who looks at it, making them think > its a beautiful woman whose filled with love and puppies. But she's > really filled with maggots and its kinda disgusting. > > Willow: Sounds like a simple glamour combined with a powerful love > spell. Is she wearing a lettermen's jacket by any chance? > > Fred: Huh? > > Willow: Never mind. I'll fax you a reveal spell and a list of ingredants > you'll need to break her love charm. Anything else? > > Fred: Willow, you're the greatest!!! > > Willow: Fred, I'm seeing someone. I'd fall into the "not calling Willow" category. Fred's probably thinking (as are most of us) that this is one of the powers-that-be. If so, it could be more than just a simple glamour. If it's Jasmine's very existence that makes people worship her, and not a simple spell, getting a powerful witch involved and possibly under Jasmine's thrall isn't at the top of my things-to-do list. I'd definitely look for other options before making the call to the Dale. Kenny

2003-04-10 11:49:29+00:00 - Re: Shiny Happy People Spoiler - (Chris Zabel <alephnull@earthlink.net>)


"Carmikl" <Carmikl@rcn.com> wrote in message news:3E94A865.5E17DC3F@rcn.com... > Space: > ; > ; > ; > ; > ; > ; > ; > ; > ; > ; > ; > ; > ; > ; > ; > ; > ; > ; > ; > ; > ; > ; > ; > ; > Seems like the most logical thing for Fred to do is call her new friend > Willow again. Help is only a couple of hours away. That would make too much sense for this episode. People complained they dumbed Connor down last week, this week they dropped Fred's intelligence about 70 IQ points to fit the plot.

2003-04-10 19:07:35+00:00 - Re: Call Willow (Shiny Happy People Spoiler) - (Dan McEwen <dannyboymcny@aol.com>)


Snuggles <postmaster@spamcop.net> wrote in news:postmaster-767EE8.21222709042003@husk.cso.niu.edu: > In article <3E94D4A7.E4342A42@rcn.com>, Carmikl <Carmikl@rcn.com> > wrote: > >> Snuggles wrote: >> > >> > In article <3E94CF21.1F8C5E54@rcn.com>, Carmikl <Carmikl@rcn.com> >> > wrote: >> > >> > > Growltiger wrote: >> > > > >> > > > Previously on alt.tv.angel, Carmikl@rcn.com wrote in article >> > > > <3E94A865.5E17DC3F@rcn.com>... >> > > > > Space: >> > > > > ; >> > > > > ; >> > > > > ; >> > > > > ; >> > > > > ; >> > > > > ; >> > > > > ; >> > > > > ; >> > > > > ; >> > > > > ; >> > > > > ; >> > > > > ; >> > > > > ; >> > > > > ; >> > > > > ; >> > > > > ; >> > > > > ; >> > > > > ; >> > > > > ; >> > > > > ; >> > > > > ; >> > > > > ; >> > > > > ; >> > > > > ; >> > > > > Seems like the most logical thing for Fred to do is call her >> > > > > new friend >> > > > > Willow again. Help is only a couple of hours away. >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > When Fred was in her car the first thought that came to mind >> > > > was Sunnydale was the place to go if I were Fred. >> > > > -- >> > > She knows there's all kinds of help in Sunnydale including >> > > Uberwitch Willow, Faith, and Buffy (The Slayer that defeated >> > > Glory). >> > >> > I think you meant Giles, the librarian that defeated Glory. >> >> No, he defeated Ben. > > Ben was just collateral damage, the target was Glory. Yes, but Glory had been badly beaten by Buffy. Buffy did beat her she just didn't kill her. There's a difference. -- Dan a.a. #1617

2003-04-11 00:51:22-07:00 - Re: Call Willow (Shiny Happy People Spoiler) - (Tim Bruening <tsbrueni@pop.dcn.davis.ca.us>)


Snuggles wrote: > In article <3E94CF21.1F8C5E54@rcn.com>, Carmikl <Carmikl@rcn.com> > wrote: > > > Growltiger wrote: > > > > > > Previously on alt.tv.angel, Carmikl@rcn.com wrote in article > > > <3E94A865.5E17DC3F@rcn.com>... > > > > Space: > > > > ; > > > > ; > > > > ; > > > > ; > > > > ; > > > > ; > > > > ; > > > > ; > > > > ; > > > > ; > > > > ; > > > > ; > > > > ; > > > > ; > > > > ; > > > > ; > > > > ; > > > > ; > > > > ; > > > > ; > > > > ; > > > > ; > > > > ; > > > > ; > > > > Seems like the most logical thing for Fred to do is call her new friend > > > > Willow again. Help is only a couple of hours away. > > > > > > > > > > When Fred was in her car the first thought that came to mind was > > > Sunnydale was the place to go if I were Fred. > > > -- > > She knows there's all kinds of help in Sunnydale including Uberwitch > > Willow, Faith, and Buffy (The Slayer that defeated Glory). > > I think you meant Giles, the librarian that defeated Glory. However, Fred would know that the Scoobies would be just as vulnerable to Jasmine as everyone else.

2003-04-11 00:53:34-07:00 - Re: Shiny Happy People Spoiler - (Tim Bruening <tsbrueni@pop.dcn.davis.ca.us>)


Carmikl wrote: > Space: > ; > ; > ; > ; > ; > ; > ; > ; > ; > ; > ; > ; > ; > ; > ; > ; > ; > ; > ; > ; > ; > ; > ; > ; > Seems like the most logical thing for Fred to do is call her new friend > Willow again. Help is only a couple of hours away. That will not work. The moment Willow saw Jasmine, she would kneel just like everyone else!

2003-04-11 02:12:36+00:00 - Re: Call Willow (Shiny Happy People Spoiler) - (rgorman@telusplanet.net)


On Wed, 09 Apr 2003 18:56:01 -0700, Carmikl <Carmikl@rcn.com> wrote: >Growltiger wrote: >> >> Previously on alt.tv.angel, Carmikl@rcn.com wrote in article >> <3E94A865.5E17DC3F@rcn.com>... >> > Space: >> > ; >> > ; >> > ; >> > ; >> > ; >> > ; >> > ; >> > ; >> > ; >> > ; >> > ; >> > ; >> > ; >> > ; >> > ; >> > ; >> > ; >> > ; >> > ; >> > ; >> > ; >> > ; >> > ; >> > ; >> > Seems like the most logical thing for Fred to do is call her new friend >> > Willow again. Help is only a couple of hours away. >> > >> >> When Fred was in her car the first thought that came to mind was >> Sunnydale was the place to go if I were Fred. >> -- >She knows there's all kinds of help in Sunnydale including Uberwitch >Willow, Faith, and Buffy (The Slayer that defeated Glory). All of whom may have already fallen under Jasmine's charisma. All they have to do is see one of Jasmine's tv appearances and they'll be working for her.

2003-04-11 09:08:43-07:00 - Re: Shiny Happy People Spoiler - (galt_57@hotmail.com)


Darwin Fish <a@a.edu> wrote in message news:<a-4EEFF5.01475010042003@husk.cso.niu.edu>... > In article <21ced21e.0304092212.c2799d1@posting.google.com>, > sam_14042@yahoo.com (Sam) wrote: > > > Carmikl <Carmikl@rcn.com> wrote in message news:<3E94A865.5E17DC3F@rcn.com>... > > > Space: > > > ; > > > ; > > > ; > > > ; > > > ; > > > ; > > > ; > > > ; > > > ; > > > ; > > > ; > > > ; > > > ; > > > ; > > > ; > > > ; > > > ; > > > ; > > > ; > > > ; > > > ; > > > ; > > > ; > > > ; > > > Seems like the most logical thing for Fred to do is call her new friend > > > Willow again. Help is only a couple of hours away. > > > > And when Willow shows up and becomes utterly devoted to serving this > > radiant Goddess of Peace and Love and Beauty, what does she do then? > > Fred: Willow, I need your help! Cordy just gave birth to Connor's > hell-spawn child. Its enchants anyone who looks at it, making them think > it's a beautiful woman who's filled with love and puppies. But she's > really filled with maggots and its kinda disgusting. No Fred could never be that concise. She would have to drivel on for a few more sentences... Fred: Actually it was very very disgusting. Very very icky, icky. Ooh it was icky. I don't want to ever go back and see it again. It was so icky. It gives me the willys just to... Willow: Fred, shut the "F" up. > Willow: Sounds like a simple glamour combined with a powerful love > spell. Is she wearing a lettermen's jacket by any chance? > > Fred: Huh? > > Willow: Never mind. I'll fax you a reveal spell and a list of ingredants > you'll need to break her love charm. Anything else? Fred: But this is some sort of "higher power." It might not be so easy to break the spell. Willow: Fred, you saw through it right? Fred: I saw something... icky. Willow: Fred, I think you may be the problem. You are from Pylea. Fred: Well, yes. Willow: Fred, we need to chop off your head. That way we won't have to listen to you anymore. Fred: Well, oh, ok. Whatever's best for the group... Willow: {lifting axe) Ratings are bad-bad.

2003-04-11 16:32:55+00:00 - Re: Shiny Happy People Spoiler - (liv <liv@ziplink.net>)


On Thu, 10 Apr 2003 04:53:22 -0700, Carmikl <Carmikl@rcn.com> wrote: >Sam wrote: >> >> Carmikl <Carmikl@rcn.com> wrote in message news:<3E94A865.5E17DC3F@rcn.com>... >> > Space: >> > ; >> > ; >> > ; >> > ; >> > ; >> > ; >> > ; >> > ; >> > ; >> > ; >> > ; >> > ; >> > ; >> > ; >> > ; >> > ; >> > ; >> > ; >> > ; >> > ; >> > ; >> > ; >> > ; >> > ; >> > Seems like the most logical thing for Fred to do is call her new friend >> > Willow again. Help is only a couple of hours away. >> >> And when Willow shows up and becomes utterly devoted to serving this >> radiant Goddess of Peace and Love and Beauty, what does she do then? > >Once forewarned that shouldn't be a problem. Willow would simply avoid >contact with Jasmine or create some kind of protective spell to keep >that from happening. --0-------------- Well, for one thing, calling Willow the All Powerful in to solve all of their problems is a cheap trick. In fact, I think ME is trying hard not to make Willow the All Powerful Answer to All the Problems, in part by making her have difficulty controlling the power while remaining Willow. Anyway, All Powerful beings, Replicators, and easy time travel all make it hard to have an interesting show. And Willow is busy, right now, with her own Apocalypse. liv liv@garbage.ziplink.net take out the garbage to reply... If you can't beat your computer at chess try kickboxing.

2003-04-11 16:35:55+00:00 - Re: Shiny Happy People Spoiler - (liv <liv@ziplink.net>)


On Thu, 10 Apr 2003 09:13:17 GMT, Jewel <jewel@nospamhere.com> wrote: >On Wed, 09 Apr 2003 16:10:29 -0700, Carmikl <Carmikl@rcn.com> wrote: > >>Space: >>; >>; >>; >>; >>; >>; >>; >>; >>; >>; >>; >>; >>; >>; >>; >>; >>; >>; >>; >>; >>; >>; >>; >>; >>Seems like the most logical thing for Fred to do is call her new friend >>Willow again. Help is only a couple of hours away. > >What? 17 posts and *nobody* thought she ought to head back to the >Psychiatrist Unit and join forces with The Called? ----------------------- The first problem is that is the logical place to trap Fred, and Angel would know that, as would Wesley and the others. Jasmine, of course, is simply going to ask everyone to look for her, using television--but until the end of the show, Fred didn't know that was going to happen. Also, crazy man didn't act like he knew of any organization of 'called', or anything that would be helpful. liv liv@garbage.ziplink.net take out the garbage to reply... If you can't beat your computer at chess try kickboxing.

2003-04-11 18:43:12-07:00 - Re: Shiny Happy People Spoiler - (Carmikl <Carmikl@rcn.com>)


liv wrote: > > On Thu, 10 Apr 2003 04:53:22 -0700, Carmikl <Carmikl@rcn.com> wrote: > > >Sam wrote: > >> > >> Carmikl <Carmikl@rcn.com> wrote in message news:<3E94A865.5E17DC3F@rcn.com>... > >> > Space: > >> > ; > >> > ; > >> > ; > >> > ; > >> > ; > >> > ; > >> > ; > >> > ; > >> > ; > >> > ; > >> > ; > >> > ; > >> > ; > >> > ; > >> > ; > >> > ; > >> > ; > >> > ; > >> > ; > >> > ; > >> > ; > >> > ; > >> > ; > >> > ; > >> > Seems like the most logical thing for Fred to do is call her new friend > >> > Willow again. Help is only a couple of hours away. > >> > >> And when Willow shows up and becomes utterly devoted to serving this > >> radiant Goddess of Peace and Love and Beauty, what does she do then? > > > >Once forewarned that shouldn't be a problem. Willow would simply avoid > >contact with Jasmine or create some kind of protective spell to keep > >that from happening. > --0-------------- > Well, for one thing, calling Willow the All Powerful in to solve all > of their problems is a cheap trick. In fact, I think ME is trying hard > not to make Willow the All Powerful Answer to All the Problems, in > part by making her have difficulty controlling the power while > remaining Willow. Anyway, All Powerful beings, Replicators, and easy > time travel all make it hard to have an interesting show. They opened Pandora's box when they called Willow a few weeks ago. Once they made Willow and option, she remains an option. > > And Willow is busy, right now, with her own Apocalypse. > Can't be choosy. An apocalypse in either LA or Sunnydale would take out both locations as well as everywhere else.

2003-04-12 22:25:32-05:00 - Re: Shiny Happy People Spoiler - (Darwin Fish <a@a.edu>)


In article <b7akdg$tka$5@blue.rahul.net>, arromdee@violet.rahul.net (Ken Arromdee) wrote: > In article <8925aa4d.0304100841.3bb1661d@posting.google.com>, > Kenny Abernathy <tnab76@yahoo.com> wrote: > >I'd fall into the "not calling Willow" category. Fred's probably > >thinking (as are most of us) that this is one of the powers-that-be. > >If so, it could be more than just a simple glamour. > > "It's one of the powers that be. I know, I'll call Willow. After all, she > helped defeat a god once." And Glory was a much tougher nut to crack. It took Willow's mind-suck, the Dragoon sphere, Olaf's troll hammer and Xander with a wrecking ball to even make Glory bled. Jasmine was hurt by a single, everyday vampire. If Fred had an ounce of common sense she could have taken Jasmine out herself.

2003-04-13 04:22:01+00:00 - Re: Shiny Happy People Spoiler - (rgorman@telusplanet.net)


On Sun, 13 Apr 2003 03:04:34 +0000 (UTC), arromdee@violet.rahul.net (Ken Arromdee) wrote: >In article <21ced21e.0304092212.c2799d1@posting.google.com>, >Sam <sam_14042@yahoo.com> wrote: >>> Seems like the most logical thing for Fred to do is call her new friend >>> Willow again. Help is only a couple of hours away. >>And when Willow shows up and becomes utterly devoted to serving this >>radiant Goddess of Peace and Love and Beauty, what does she do then? > >Nothing. > >Fred tells Willow "Don't come here or you'll fall under the spell. And for >goodness sakes, don't watch TV today." What happens if Willow has already watched TV? If that is the case, then the only thing that will save Fred, is Willow's ignorance that she is opposed to Jasmine.