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1996-03-09 00:00:00 - Flashback Episode versus Christmas Episode - (puddintame@aol.com)


A few days ago I asked those whi had taped the Christmas show to review it and see how it jibes with the latest flashback episode. Unfortunately, nobody responded. Fortunately, I discovered, to my surprise, that I, myself, still had the show on video(I generally tape over them). Ah, the happy surprises that await one who neglects to label his videos. At any rate, it had been nagging at me that Tom's recollection in the flashback episode did not exactly jibe with the Christmas show. To be specific, in the latest episode, the flashback episode Tom is sure that the men in the jungle are not really U.S. military because he sees the ladies sewing together the mock uniforms. Now, compare this with the bit of dialogue I've extracted from the Christmas show. In this scene, Tom is talking to "Sandra Wilson" who has introduced herself to Tom as being with the U.S. Atorney's office... TOM: Just who IS this "organization?" SANDRA: They're a well-funded group of political fanatics. Over the last four years they've been wreaking havoc on internal politics and foreign policy. It seems they want things the way they want them. And they're good. TOM: Are you telling me that the men in my photograph are not U.S. military personnel? SANDRA: That's what I'm telling you. The organization wanted it to look that way, though. TOM: Why? SANDRA: If you remember what was going on at the time...we were trying to negotiate a peace treaty with the revolutionary government. TOM: Yeah, I remember. It never happened. SANDRA: Right. That's just what they wanted. The men in that photograph...the victims...were four of the revolutionary government's highest ranking officers. The moment the U.S. military was suspected of committing those executions, all of our work went to hell in a handbasket. They do what they do very well. TOM: They may still be doing it. Hmm, in that scene Tom seems surprised to discover the possibility that the men in the photo are not really the militaryy. Yet in the flashback episode he was certain of it. What gives here?

1996-03-14 00:00:00 - Re: Flashback Episode versus Christmas Episode - (CNWP80C@prodigy.com)


I have taped both episodes, and I see what you mean. If you look earlier on the tape in the Christmas episode, you will see that Tom isn't 100% sure that she is to be believed, so I think that he doesn't want to give away anything, until he is sure that it is old news. In the flashback episode, I have one question. If everything was "staged" how could he have been in another country? It didn't look like that place in Washington was very big. He was right off the highway. Back when he first took the photo, I am sure that he would have heard the highway. Your thoughts? Steven NOWHERE MAN KICKS ASS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

1996-03-17 00:00:00 - Re: Flashback Episode versus Christmas Episode - (puddintame@aol.com)


Steven Bloom asks: > If everything was "staged" how could he have been in another country? It didn't >look like that place in Washington was very big. He was right off the highway. >Back when he first took the photo, I am sure that he would have heard the >highway." I don't think we can assume that the location off the highway was where the photo was actually taken. I was assuming that Hale, the traitor, got a hold of these props from the organization and placed them nearby so as to prove to Tom that he was telling him the truth.

1996-03-21 00:00:00 - Re: Flashback Episode versus Christmas Episode - (Tim Gemma <stone@k12.cnidr.org>)


On 17 Mar 1996, PuddinTame wrote: > I don't think we can assume that the location off the highway was where > the photo was actually taken. I was assuming that Hale, the traitor, got a > hold of these props from the organization and placed them nearby so as to > prove to Tom that he was telling him the truth. Any Prisoner fans out there remember "Living in Harmony"? While the events in the Old-West town of Harmony didn't /actually/ happen, the buildings, props, and voices were there. These, combined with hallucinatory drugs, made Number Six believe the events were real (at least, to a small degree). Could not have the same thing been accomplished here, to Thomas Veil? The props, perhaps actors, hallucinatory drugs, and/or some sort of electronic memory conditioning. Who knows? I don't claim to understand the Conspiracy's motives in the least, but this seems like a plausible explanation to me. /==================================================================\ // Quintin Stone | The Rebel Programmers Society: \\ // stone@yes.vnet.net | Better living through \\ // "Remember, even silly guns kill." | World Domination \\ \========================================================================/ \\ The RPS pages, new as of 1/31/96! http://laurel.cnidr.org/stone/ // \====================================================================/

1996-03-22 00:00:00 - Re: Flashback Episode versus Christmas Episode - (roses@access1.digex.net)


In article <Pine.SUN.3.91.960321173606.13580A-100000@k12.cnidr.org>, Tim Gemma <stone@k12.cnidr.org> wrote: > >On 17 Mar 1996, PuddinTame wrote: > >> I don't think we can assume that the location off the highway was where >> the photo was actually taken. I was assuming that Hale, the traitor, got a >> hold of these props from the organization and placed them nearby so as to >> prove to Tom that he was telling him the truth. > >Any Prisoner fans out there remember "Living in Harmony"? While the >events in the Old-West town of Harmony didn't /actually/ happen, the >buildings, props, and voices were there. These, combined with >hallucinatory drugs, made Number Six believe the events were real (at >least, to a small degree). > >Could not have the same thing been accomplished here, to Thomas Veil? >The props, perhaps actors, hallucinatory drugs, and/or some sort of >electronic memory conditioning. Who knows? I don't claim to understand >the Conspiracy's motives in the least, but this seems like a plausible >explanation to me. Yes, *I* think that's what they were implying. The question is, what memory are they substituting for another? I still believe Alyson is the key to everything--I found it curious that he never mentioned her name in his conversation with his friend in South America... Going nowhere, Rose Swicegood