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1996-04-16 00:00:00 - Re: 4/15 episode (SPOILERS) - (ketchel@clustr.calvertgroup.com)


Couple of questions about this episode: My husband noted that it seemed odd that Tom kept the negatives in such a dumb hiding place (the tote bag). He was so careful in other episodes (ie keeping it in the molding of his hotel room, bus station lockers etc.)... How did he get the name of the person he was supposed to meet with at 8AM? Leftovers, perhaps from the palmtop? Great episode....have to agree with Andrew that it was a definite setup. Can't wait until next week, Larry! Holly

1996-04-16 00:00:00 - Re: 4/15 episode (SPOILERS) - (IJBall@aol.com)


In article <4l06vd$2sd@news3.digex.net>, ketchel@clustr.calvertgroup.com () wrote: > Couple of questions about this episode: > > My husband noted that it seemed odd that Tom kept the negatives in such a > dumb hiding place (the tote bag). He was so careful in other episodes (ie > keeping it in the molding of his hotel room, bus station lockers etc.)... The thing to remember about the "mugging" episode, is that, sequentially, it actually belongs in the first 13 episodes (i.e. it should be *before* the all-important X-Mas episode w/ Allyson). Back then, I'm not sure Tom was as good at hiding the negatives. > How did he get the name of the person he was supposed to meet with at 8AM? > Leftovers, perhaps from the palmtop? *This* is a good question. As I said above, I'm pretty sure that this episode is in the first 13, *before* he got the palmtop. So how *did* he find this guy? > Great episode.... Mostly because Andrea Thompson was the voice of the D.J.! :) A question: was the runaway also one of Them? -- Ian J. Ball | Want the rec.arts.tv FAQ? Available (soon) at: Grad Student, UCLA | http://members.aol.com/IJBall/WWW/IJBall.html IJBall@aol.com | Want my TV guides & FAQ's? ijb@ucla.edu | ftp://members.aol.com/IJBall3/FTP/

1996-04-16 00:00:00 - 4/15 episode (SPOILERS) - (Andrew_Perry@Brown.edu)


So, like, I take this episode to be as close as we are ever going to come to conclusive proof that, whether They want the negatives or not, they are certainly not the only thing They want, and they are certainly not the most important thing They want from Tom. The Organization took a LONG time to send in their rescue car. And they sent in one car, with one guy?!? (He looked like a wimp for the two seconds he was alive and on-screen, too.) Every other time we've seen them move in, it has been with two or three cars, full of four bad-assess each. Even without the smoking gun^H^H^H cigar at the end of the show, I would say that this whole episode was some sort of set-up, based solely on the utterly ineffectual job They did of extricating Angler. With the cigar, it's beyond doubt. Of course, I am less clear on the *why* behind the set-up. Did they just want to see what Tom would do if the negatives were out of his possession? Or was there more to it than that? (And of course, there will always be the big question: are those really *the* negatives that he recovered from Angler?) -- Andy Perry We search before and after, Brown University We pine for what is not. English Department Our sincerest laughter Andrew_Perry@brown.edu OR With some pain is fraught. st001914@brownvm.bitnet -- Shelley, d'apres Horace Rumpole

1996-04-17 00:00:00 - Re: 4/15 episode (SPOILERS) - (vic33@usa.pipeline.com)


On Apr 16, 1996 01:31:33 in article <4/15 episode (SPOILERS)>, 'Andrew_Perry@Brown.edu (Andy Perry)' wrote: (And of course, there will always be the big question: are those really *the* negatives that he recovered from Angler?) ----->>>> I'm confused as well. In the pilot episode, we saw Tom mail a bunch of copies of the negatives to himself at different General Delivery addresses across the USA. BUT.... if you watch the episode again... you'll notice that the mailbox he dropped them into looked awfully phony! Even rocked back & forth a bit when he dropped the envelopes in. (No one has ever brought this up here before!) It could very well be that ALL the negatives Tom thought he mailed were intercepted. He could have dropped them into a fake mailbox. If he only had one of many sets of the negatives with him in the last episode... why did he put himself in such grave danger to get them back? Perhaps they were the originals? Perhaps they are the only existing copy? Another question: if the negatives he mailed out were intercepted, when he found this out; he would make more copies and mail those; wouldn't he? Still, why risk his life over copies? > Vic33@usa.pipeline.com http://pwp.usa.pipeline.com/~vic33/ **** FIGHT CENSORSHIP ON THE INTERNET**** ---->>>> WATCH UPNs "NOWHERE MAN"!! <<<<---- Visit the PDX.MOVIES newsgroup!

1996-04-17 00:00:00 - Re: 4/15 episode (SPOILERS) - (kromkam@ecf.toronto.edu)


In article <IJBall-1604961042460001@mac_rbk_3.chem.ucla.edu>, Ian J. Ball <IJBall@aol.com> wrote: >In article <4l06vd$2sd@news3.digex.net>, ketchel@clustr.calvertgroup.com >() wrote: > >> Couple of questions about this episode: >> >> My husband noted that it seemed odd that Tom kept the negatives in such a >> dumb hiding place (the tote bag). He was so careful in other episodes (ie >> keeping it in the molding of his hotel room, bus station lockers etc.)... > >The thing to remember about the "mugging" episode, is that, sequentially, >it actually belongs in the first 13 episodes (i.e. it should be *before* >the all-important X-Mas episode w/ Allyson). > >Back then, I'm not sure Tom was as good at hiding the negatives. > >> How did he get the name of the person he was supposed to meet with at 8AM? >> Leftovers, perhaps from the palmtop? > >*This* is a good question. As I said above, I'm pretty sure that this >episode is in the first 13, *before* he got the palmtop. So how *did* he >find this guy? > >> Great episode.... > >Mostly because Andrea Thompson was the voice of the D.J.! :) > I thought thats who the voice was! But it was uncredited? I thought if you had lines, you had to get credited, even if you werent seen. Andy K. >A question: was the runaway also one of Them? >-- >Ian J. Ball | Want the rec.arts.tv FAQ? Available (soon) at: >Grad Student, UCLA | http://members.aol.com/IJBall/WWW/IJBall.html >IJBall@aol.com | Want my TV guides & FAQ's? >ijb@ucla.edu | ftp://members.aol.com/IJBall3/FTP/

1996-04-18 00:00:00 - Re: 4/15 episode (SPOILERS) - (adamsan@bu.edu)


Andy Perry (Andrew_Perry@Brown.edu) wrote: : So, like, I take this episode to be as close as we are ever going to come : to conclusive proof that, whether They want the negatives or not, they are : certainly not the only thing They want, and they are certainly not the : most important thing They want from Tom. : The Organization took a LONG time to send in their rescue car. And they : sent in one car, with one guy?!? Here's a thought, bear with me because it's just comming to me now. Everyone and their mother implied that that town wasn't a safe place, they could tell just by looking at Tom that he wasn't from around there, that he was in danger and had to get out. A town like this one certainly doesn't fit into the organization's ideal plan to control every person's life. Perhaps they have absolutely no power there. o.k., maybe this seems to be an argument for anarchy, but of course, anarchy doesn't help Tom, it rather bloodies his nose quite a bit, so he has to more on to something else. It took them so long to react because this place was out of their jurisdiction, perhaps that was also why Tom's imformant arranged the meeting there? (He looked like a wimp for the two : seconds he was alive and on-screen, too.) Every other time we've seen : them move in, it has been with two or three cars, full of four bad-assess : each. Even without the smoking gun^H^H^H cigar at the end of the show, I : would say that this whole episode was some sort of set-up, based solely on : the utterly ineffectual job They did of extricating Angler. With the : cigar, it's beyond doubt. Perhaps the cigar was left by the informant? Using the radio to give Tom clues? Perhaps these aren't the questions we should be asking of this episode? : Of course, I am less clear on the *why* behind the set-up. Did they just : want to see what Tom would do if the negatives were out of his : possession? Or was there more to it than that? (And of course, there : will always be the big question: are those really *the* negatives that he : recovered from Angler?) I'm sure that Tom knows the code for the date that his negatives were processed by heart now. O.K. so what is to keep "Them" from falsifying the code? I have the feeling that a move like that goes against the rules of the game. Interesting and his dog Spot quote Gertrude Stien, "And to in six and another. And to and in and six and another. And to and in and six and another. And to in six and and to and in and six and another. And to and in and six and another. And to and six and in and another and and to and six and another and and to and in and six and and to and six and in and another." -From "As a Wife Has a Cow: A Love Story" 1926

1996-04-20 00:00:00 - Re: 4/15 episode (SPOILERS) - (maskdmirag@aol.com)


In article <IJBall-1604961042460001@mac_rbk_3.chem.ucla.edu>, IJBall@aol.com (Ian J. Ball) writes: >> How did he get the name of the person he was supposed to meet with at 8AM? >> Leftovers, perhaps from the palmtop? > >*This* is a good question. As I said above, I'm pretty sure that this >episode is in the first 13, *before* he got the palmtop. So how *did* he >find this guy? Probably this was the man he went to meet at the end of the american collective episode(Igot this from the mailing list)

1996-04-24 00:00:00 - Re: 4/15 episode (SPOILERS) - (adamsan@bu.edu)


ketchel@clustr.calvertgroup.com wrote: : Couple of questions about this episode: : My husband noted that it seemed odd that Tom kept the negatives in such a : dumb hiding place (the tote bag). He was so careful in other episodes (ie : keeping it in the molding of his hotel room, bus station lockers etc.)... Perhaps he just got there and didn't have a chance to hide them yet? : How did he get the name of the person he was supposed to meet with at 8AM? : Leftovers, perhaps from the palmtop? Someone over one the mailing list suggested that this was the tip he got from "The Enemy Within". I think Sandra asked Larry about this one and he suggested it was a possiblity. I liked the episode quite a bit. Saw "Validation" (Father) this morning and was very pleased with that, "Callaway" looks to be another goodie, another goodie, as if! Interesting and his dog Spot are apartment hunting, paper writing, and exam studying, blah, it's hot here, feeling sleepy, maybe we'll just start rambling and post another random association article about "Dee's" relavance to the Prisoner episode "A, B, and C", nah I'll save you all the suffering. =oP

1996-04-24 00:00:00 - Re: 4/15 episode (SPOILERS) - (exile@zot.io.org)


In article <4l06vd$2sd@news3.digex.net>, <ketchel@clustr.calvertgroup.com> wrote: > > >Couple of questions about this episode: > >My husband noted that it seemed odd that Tom kept the negatives in such a >dumb hiding place (the tote bag). He was so careful in other episodes (ie >keeping it in the molding of his hotel room, bus station lockers etc.)... I just thought that he was on the move at the time. Perhaps he just stepped off a bus getting into the city and hadn't enough time to set up shop somewhere and hide his negatives. Sort of like being a businessman arriving in the city just in time for a business meeting, and so he has all his luggage sitting in the trunk of his rental car.... Ash. -- :: exile@io.org ::: http://www.io.org/~exile/ :: ftp.io.org/pub/users/exile :: ::::::: "Everybody's equal in the glow of radiation..." :::::::::::::::::::: ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: Sheryl Crow ::::::::::::::::::

1996-04-25 00:00:00 - Spot is Dead! - (vic33@usa.pipeline.com)


On Apr 24, 1996 02:23:29 in article <Re: 4/15 episode (SPOILERS)>, 'adamsan@bu.edu (Adam DeFranco)' wrote: >Interesting and his dog Spot are apartment hunting, paper writing, and exam studying, blah, it's hot here, feeling sleepy, maybe we'll just start rambling and post another random association article about "Dee's" relavance to the Prisoner episode "A, B, and C", nah I'll save you all the suffering. =oP --->>> In the interest of preventing cruelty to animals and the alt.tv.nowhere-man newsgroup readers, I have killed Interesting and his dog Spot. They are dead. -- Vic33@usa.pipeline.com http://pwp.usa.pipeline.com/~vic33/ **** FIGHT CENSORSHIP ON THE INTERNET**** ---->>>> WATCH UPNs "NOWHERE MAN"!! <<<<---- Visit the PDX.MOVIES newsgroup!