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1997-09-10 00:00:00 - Trying to ID 3 oOL episodes - (olsenkc@bonn.bonneville.com)




1997-09-10 00:00:00 - Re: Trying to ID 3 oOL episodes - (wrthomps@ix.netcom.com)


In <5v6bmq$sdi$1@news1.uswest.net> olsenkc@bonn.bonneville.com (Caldera Desktop User) writes: > > >From my youth, I remember 3 episodes, that may have been either Outer >Limits or Twilight Zone. If anyone can help me Identify these it >would be appreciated. I have looked through episode guides I have >found on the net, and think I have identifed one, but I am still >unsure about the other two. > >1) A creature that had a 'snowflake' like effect that strangled it's >victims (at least I seem to remember them struggling for air. -- >I think this is "It came out of the Woodwork". This sounds like "The Gifted One." The alien looked human, but was a sort of amphibian in disguise. He was here in the guise of a tutor to subvert Earth's most talented children. One of his students created a device that made it impossible for him to breathe. The special effect made the choking alien look like he was caught in a blizzard. >2) A man puts his hand in some dimensional gateway and it comes back >reversed, giving him 2 right (left?) hands. "The Borderland." The first gateway was a prototype device just big enough to flip his hand through an extra dimension. The scientist and his mathematician-wife persuaded a wealthy industrialist to support the construction and use of a bigger device; the industrialist hoped they would enter some sort of oogie-boogie land where they could communicate with the spirit of his dead son (the episode was weakened, in my opinion, by the inclusion of this subplot, with its fake medium and her weaselly henchman; other than that, an excellent episode). > >3) A group of men on a deep space voyage (It may have been a >simulation) have strange realistic dreams, and 'dissappear' when they >are asleep. I remember a scene where the other crew members looking >at the bunk of one of their companions, realize he isn't there because >he is asleep, but the pillow is still indented, like it would be from >the weight of someones head? (The details here are as I remember >them, and may not be entirely accurate.) Sounds like "Counterweight." Several volunteers (passengers, pilot and stewardess) on a simulated flight to another stellar system; if they succeeded, real flights would be shown possible and they would be among the first settlers on a new planet. There was a monster-of-the-week that looked like a cross between a fern and a snake; it provoked the nightmares and caused the experiment to fail. The monster was a native of the planet targetted for colonization, and didn't want the intrusion. Nobody disappeared during the nightmares, although people got up and moved around during their sleep periods. These are all OL episodes, although "The Counterweight" has vague similarities to the TZ episode "Where Is Everybody?" That's the one where a man finds himself in an empty town; it turns out he was hallucinating during an isolation-tank experiment. The similarity of plots isn't plagiarism; Serling based that episode on Air Force isolation experiments (although the real hallucinations were less complex--test subjects saw their instrument panels melt, felt the walls close in, saw pixies, and so on). --Bill Thompson

1997-09-11 00:00:00 - Re: Trying to ID 3 oOL episodes - (acutabov@ix.netcom.com)


>Caldera Desktop User <olsenkc@bonn.bonneville.com> wrote: > From my youth, I remember 3 episodes, that may have been either Outer > Limits or Twilight Zone. If anyone can help me Identify these it > would be appreciated. I have looked through episode guides I have > found on the net, and think I have identifed one, but I am still unsure > about the other two. > > 1) ...<snip>... > 2) ...<snip>... > 3) A group of men on a deep space voyage (It may have been a simulation) > have strange realistic dreams, and 'dissappear' when they are asleep. I > remember a scene where the other crew members looking at the bunk of one > of their companions, realize he isn't there because he is asleep, > but the pillow is still indented, like it would be from the weight of > someones head? (The details here are as I remember them, and may not be > entirely accurate.) This one sounds like the original Twilight Zone episode "Death Ship", with Jack Klugman and Ross Martin. Basically, while orbiting a planet they see something glinting on the surface. They land, and discover a wrecked duplicate of their ship, with their dead bodies inside.

1997-09-11 00:00:00 - Re: Trying to ID 3 oOL episodes - (acutabov@ix.netcom.com)


>Caldera Desktop User <olsenkc@bonn.bonneville.com> wrote: > From my youth, I remember 3 episodes, that may have been either Outer > Limits or Twilight Zone. If anyone can help me Identify these it > would be appreciated. I have looked through episode guides I have > found on the net, and think I have identifed one, but I am still unsure > about the other two. > > 1) ...<snip>... > 2) A man puts his hand in some dimensional gateway and it comes back > reversed, giving him 2 right (left?) hands. >3)...snip>... I've forgotten the name of this one, but it's an original Outer Limits episode. Basically, a husband/wife team of scientists are experimenting, and discover a reverse dimension. They need additional financing and obtain it from the local eccentric multi-millionaire, with only one stipulation: When they enter the other dimension, they must look for the spirit of the millionaire's dead son. It's one of my favorite episodes even though it doesn't have any aliens. The human factor is scary enough.

1997-09-11 00:00:00 - Re: Trying to ID 3 oOL episodes - (stoodin101@aol.com)


>3) A group of men on a deep space voyage (It may have been a simulation) >have strange realistic dreams, and 'dissappear' when they are asleep. I believe this to have been a Twilight Zone (the other two have been correctly identified as OL eps) which may have been called simply "Ghost Ship". In the end, the men discover their own ship, crashed on a barren planet, and their bodies within it...but refusing to admit the Horrible Truth, fly back off into space, spectres in a spectre spacecraft. It made a big impression on me as a kid, but overall I vastly prefer oOL to TZ (and still insist that nTZ was better than oTZ! ) NECRONOMICON, all-instrumental electronic music inspired by H.P.Lovecraft, now available on c-60 cassette. E-mail StoOdin101@aol.com for details.

1997-09-14 00:00:00 - Re: Trying to ID 3 oOL episodes - (Marta Dawes <smdawes1@home.com>)


Vogue Rogue wrote: > > >Caldera Desktop User <olsenkc@bonn.bonneville.com> wrote: > > From my youth, I remember 3 episodes, that may have been either Outer > > Limits or Twilight Zone. If anyone can help me Identify these it > > would be appreciated. I have looked through episode guides I have > > found on the net, and think I have identifed one, but I am still unsure > > about the other two. > > > > 1) ...<snip>... > > 2) A man puts his hand in some dimensional gateway and it comes back > > reversed, giving him 2 right (left?) hands. > >3)...snip>... > > I've forgotten the name of this one, but it's an original Outer Limits episode. > > Basically, a husband/wife team of scientists are experimenting, and > discover a reverse dimension. They need additional financing and obtain > it from the local eccentric multi-millionaire, with only one stipulation: When they > enter the other dimension, they must look for the spirit of the millionaire's dead son. > > It's one of my favorite episodes even though it doesn't have any aliens. > The human factor is scary enough. > > > > Wasn't this "The Bellero Shield"? Don't have my guide handy at the moment. Marta

1997-09-14 00:00:00 - Re: Trying to ID 3 oOL episodes - (Marta Dawes <smdawes1@home.com>)


StoOdin101 wrote: > > >3) A group of men on a deep space voyage (It may have been a simulation) > >have strange realistic dreams, and 'dissappear' when they are asleep. > > I believe this to have been a Twilight Zone (the other two have been > correctly identified as OL eps) which may have been called simply "Ghost > Ship". In the end, the men discover their own ship, crashed on a barren > planet, and their bodies within it...but refusing to admit the Horrible > Truth, fly back off into space, spectres in a spectre spacecraft. > It made a big impression on me as a kid, but overall I vastly prefer oOL > to TZ (and still insist that nTZ was better than oTZ! ) > > NECRONOMICON, all-instrumental electronic music inspired by H.P.Lovecraft, > now available on c-60 cassette. E-mail StoOdin101@aol.com for details. I love the old TZ's, but love the new TZ's more. If anyone out there has volume 1 and volume 6 of the New TZ's on laserdisk, new or used, that they'd like to sell, let me know. I'm looking for them. "Demon with a Glass Hand", though, is my favorite OL. Thanks! Marta

1997-09-15 00:00:00 - Re: Trying to ID 3 oOL episodes - (stoodin101@aol.com)


>I love the old TZ's, but love the new TZ's more. If anyone out there >has volume 1 and volume 6 of the New TZ's on laserdisk, new or used, >that they'd like to sell, let me know. I'm looking for them. > They were released on laserdisc? never knew that. For my $, Steven Barnes' adaptaion of Silverberg's "To see the Invisible Man" and O'Bannon's "Wordplay" were the best TZs ever done, new or old...and TSTIM is one of the best SF TV eps ever. >"Demon with a Glass Hand", though, is my favorite OL. My favorite was probably "Dont Open Till Doomsday" or "Nightmare"...until nOL came along. Now "Dark Rain" supercedes all other OL eps. A simply magnificent work. (Barnes has done some good work for nOL, too: Stitch in Time and Music of the Spheres are both very nice eps.) NECRONOMICON, all-instrumental electronic music inspired by H.P.Lovecraft, now available on c-60 cassette. E-mail StoOdin101@aol.com for details.

1997-09-18 00:00:00 - Re: Trying to ID 3 oOL episodes - (acutabov@ix.netcom.com)


>Marta Dawes <smdawes1@home.com> replied: > >Caldera Desktop User <olsenkc@bonn.bonneville.com> wrote: > > 2) A man puts his hand in some dimensional gateway and it comes > > back reversed, giving him 2 right (left?) hands. > Wasn't this "The Bellero Shield"? Don't have my guide handy at the > moment. > > Marta It's been mentioned that this one is probably 'The Borderland'.