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2000-04-04 00:00:00 - The Outer Limits Companion? - (Thomas Rucki <pangloss@cybercable.fr>)


Hi, Who has read David J. Schow's The Outer Limits Companion? Tell me your comments about it. Tom

2000-04-04 00:00:00 - Re: The Outer Limits Companion? - (stoodin101@aol.com)


>Who has read David J. Schow's The Outer Limits Companion? >Tell me your comments about it. > It's absolutely indispensible for info about the old series. Pictures, anekdotes, gaffes, behind-the-scenes info, it's all there. I don't know what's in the new edition. I would wager that there is nothing on the new series beyond a line or two acknowledging it, since Schow is notoriously opposed to it. "The man that hath no music in himself, nor is not moved with concord of sweet sounds, is fit for treasons, stratagems and spoils... Let no such man be trusted!" --- Shakespeare

2000-04-04 00:00:00 - Re: The Outer Limits Companion? - (Thomas Rucki <pangloss@cybercable.fr>)


"J.B.L." a *crit : > >Who has read David J. Schow's The Outer Limits Companion? > >Tell me your comments about it. > > > > It's absolutely indispensible for info about the old series. Pictures, > anekdotes, gaffes, behind-the-scenes info, it's all there. > > I don't know what's in the new edition. I would wager that there is nothing on > the new series beyond a line or two acknowledging it, since Schow is > notoriously opposed to it. I didn't read the first edition of TOL Companion (1986); but I know the new and improved second edition (1998) which is among the best TV companion that I ever read. It's a glossy book with large pictures and relevant comments about the show. Moreover, the book contains the complete episode guide and production credits of Leslie Stevens' first series: "Stoney Burke"; and a review on Joseph Stefano's unsold pilot: "The Haunted aka The Ghost of Sierra de Cobra" (1964, in color), starring Martin Landau and Diane Baker. The new OL companion is highly recommended! Tom

2000-04-04 00:00:00 - Re: The Outer Limits Companion? - (stoodin101@aol.com)


> >I didn't read the first edition of TOL Companion (1986); >but I know the new and improved second edition (1998) >which is among the best TV companion that I ever read. The noted SF journalist Frank Garcia interviews David Schow at http://www.fandom.com/ Schow talks quite a bit about the OL Companion and the events that led to its creation, as well as the various people involved in the original series. Check it out! "The man that hath no music in himself, nor is not moved with concord of sweet sounds, is fit for treasons, stratagems and spoils... Let no such man be trusted!" --- Shakespeare

2000-04-04 00:00:00 - Re: The Outer Limits Companion? - (Nyarlathotep <nyarlathotep1@my-deja.com>)


In article <20000404153705.15990.00000854@ng-cj1.aol.com>, stoodin101@aol.com (J.B.L.) wrote: > > > >I didn't read the first edition of TOL Companion (1986); > >but I know the new and improved second edition (1998) > >which is among the best TV companion that I ever read. > > The noted SF journalist Frank Garcia interviews David Schow at > http://www.fandom.com/ Thanks for the link; I enjoyed the article. The "exceedingly trucuent" fellow Schow alludes to wouldn't by any chance be Harlan Ellison, would it? Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy.

2000-04-04 00:00:00 - Re: The Outer Limits Companion? - (stoodin101@aol.com)


> The "exceedingly trucuent" fellow Schow alludes to wouldn't by any >chance be Harlan Ellison, would it? > Anybody's guess. Could be... I believe that the Outer Limits Tribute that is mentioned in the article was supposed to have had Ellison as a guest, but Stefano wouldn't come if Ellison was there, so Ellison bowed out and took Robert Culp with him. Sheesh! I think it's pretty obvious why Stefano wouldn't want to share space with Ellison, if you read Ellison's remarks about the first season in the Companion... "The man that hath no music in himself, nor is not moved with concord of sweet sounds, is fit for treasons, stratagems and spoils... Let no such man be trusted!" --- Shakespeare

2000-04-04 00:00:00 - Re: The Outer Limits Companion? - (Thomas Rucki <pangloss@cybercable.fr>)


"J.B.L." a *crit : > > The "exceedingly trucuent" fellow Schow alludes to wouldn't by any > >chance be Harlan Ellison, would it? > > > > Anybody's guess. Could be... I believe that the Outer Limits Tribute that is > mentioned in the article was supposed to have had Ellison as a guest, but > Stefano wouldn't come if Ellison was there, so Ellison bowed out and took > Robert Culp with him. Sheesh! > I think it's pretty obvious why Stefano wouldn't want to share space with > Ellison, if you read Ellison's remarks about the first season in the > Companion... > > "The man that hath no music in himself, nor is not moved with concord of sweet > sounds, is fit for treasons, stratagems and spoils... Let no such man be > trusted!" --- Shakespeare By the way, Hellison was wrong about TOL season one, indeed! Too bad, he didn't understand the chemistry and the metaphysic of the show. "Such tricks hath strong imagination, That, if it would but apprehend some joy, It comprehends some bringer of that joy; Or in the night, imagining some fear, How easy is a bush supposed a bear!" �A Midsummer Night's Dream, Theseus, Act V., Sc. I.

2000-04-04 00:00:00 - Re: The Outer Limits Companion? - (stoodin101@aol.com)


>Or in the night, imagining some fear, >How easy is a bush supposed a bear!" >—A Midsummer Night's Dream, Theseus, Act V., Sc. I. No, wait, I think that was Tone Hobart, not the Bard. : ) "The man that hath no music in himself, nor is not moved with concord of sweet sounds, is fit for treasons, stratagems and spoils... Let no such man be trusted!" --- Shakespeare

2000-04-05 00:00:00 - Re: The Outer Limits Companion? - (Nyarlathotep <nyarlathotep1@my-deja.com>)


In article <20000404173726.00978.00000061@ng-co1.aol.com>, stoodin101@aol.com (J.B.L.) wrote: > > The "exceedingly trucuent" fellow Schow alludes to wouldn't by any > >chance be Harlan Ellison, would it? > > > > Anybody's guess. Could be... I believe that the Outer Limits Tribute that is > mentioned in the article was supposed to have had Ellison as a guest, but > Stefano wouldn't come if Ellison was there, so Ellison bowed out and took > Robert Culp with him. Sheesh! Yeah, I know. It's a bit strange, I think, that Culp would follow Ellison off the project in this way (unless, e.g., RC & HE are good friends, or Culp has other grievances against Stefano). I mean, Culp starred in two superb first season episodes ("Architects..." and "Corpus...") -- two episodes which, for my money, far exceed "Demon with a Glass Hand." > I think it's pretty obvious why Stefano wouldn't want to share space with > Ellison, if you read Ellison's remarks about the first season in the > Companion... Right. I'm unfortunately without a copy of the OL Companion (I'll keep looking), but I'm aware of Ellison's remarks. Incidentally, I think these remarks of Ellison's are absurd and untenable. I'll grant that Ellison's episodes are better than most of the season II stuff -- with the caveat that this isn't saying much. The Ellison episodes are alright, but they're conventional science fiction. The best first season episodes -- many of them written by Stefano -- are in a league of their own. One would have to be extremely deluded to contend, as Ellison has, that the series became better in the second season. Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy.

2000-04-05 00:00:00 - Re: The Outer Limits Companion? - (stoodin101@aol.com)


>It's a bit strange, I think, that Culp would follow >Ellison off the project in this way (unless, e.g., RC & HE are good >friends, or Culp has other grievances against Stefano). Ellison IS a good friend of Culp. He convinced him to come because DEMON was to be aired. Stefano refused to come if DEMON was aired, so both the DEMON associates bowed out. I think that part of why Stefano didn't want that aired is because the show was essentially wrested from Leslie Stevens by ABC for the lacklustre second season. Stevens is dead now, and JS may have felt that iring ANY 2nd season ep was doing the memory of LS a disfavour. "The man that hath no music in himself, nor is not moved with concord of sweet sounds, is fit for treasons, stratagems and spoils... Let no such man be trusted!" --- Shakespeare

2000-04-10 00:00:00 - Re: The Outer Limits Companion? - (Michael Bastraw <macnmike1@cyberportal.net>)


J.B.L. wrote: > > >Who has read David J. Schow's The Outer Limits Companion? > >Tell me your comments about it. > > > > It's absolutely indispensible for info about the old series. Pictures, > anekdotes, gaffes, behind-the-scenes info, it's all there. > > I don't know what's in the new edition. I would wager that there is nothing on > the new series beyond a line or two acknowledging it, since Schow is > notoriously opposed to it. > > "The man that hath no music in himself, nor is not moved with concord of sweet > sounds, is fit for treasons, stratagems and spoils... Let no such man be > trusted!" --- Shakespeare To Whom: I have owned the original edition since it first came out. (It's looking more than a little dog-eared.) I am considering picking up the latest version but have been unable to find out EXACTLY what makes it "new and improved". Would anyone who has read both editions please clue us in? Thanx for the anaticipated cooperation. Best. Mike.

2000-04-11 00:00:00 - Re: The Outer Limits Companion? - (Thomas Rucki <pangloss@cybercable.fr>)


Michael Bastraw a *crit : > J.B.L. wrote: > > > > >Who has read David J. Schow's The Outer Limits Companion? > > >Tell me your comments about it. > > > > > > > It's absolutely indispensible for info about the old series. Pictures, > > anekdotes, gaffes, behind-the-scenes info, it's all there. > > > > I don't know what's in the new edition. I would wager that there is nothing on > > the new series beyond a line or two acknowledging it, since Schow is > > notoriously opposed to it. > > > > "The man that hath no music in himself, nor is not moved with concord of sweet > > sounds, is fit for treasons, stratagems and spoils... Let no such man be > > trusted!" --- Shakespeare > > To Whom: > > I have owned the original edition since it first came out. (It's looking > more than a little dog-eared.) I am considering picking up the latest > version but have been unable to find out EXACTLY what makes it "new and > improved". > > Would anyone who has read both editions please clue us in? > > Thanx for the anaticipated cooperation. > > Best. > Mike. About the new edition (1998): 1.Format: bigger and larger (28X21,5 cm) 2.Cover and paper: glossy 3.Iconography: a much better quality than the first edition with some beatiful full pictures. 4.Contents: a) an extented episode guide with reviews b) The Outer Limits Session (the recording of the soundtrack) c) a complete Stoney Burke episode guide d) a chapter about the life after The Outer Limits where we learn that Joseph Stefano has directed a pilot in color in 1964 called: "The Haunted", made with The Outer Limits Crew. � With any luck, this edition of the more sanely-titled 'Outer Limits Companion' should be a more definitive text, incorporating addenda, corrigenda, restored copy, more interviews, more photos. Several news sections detail significant events in 'Outer Limits' history that transpired following publication of the original edition. Every page of the earlier text has been re-examined, re-thought, embellished, and in some instances, rewritten... � �David J. Schow from "Preface to the Second Edition". ***End of Transmission*** Tom

2000-04-11 00:00:00 - Re: The Outer Limits Companion? - (Nyarlathotep <nyarlathotep1@my-deja.com>)


The OL C sounds great, I just wish that I could find a copy. Unfortunately, none of my local (Berkeley, CA.) bookstores has it. I'll visit the Virgin Records store in San Francisco tonight; perhaps they'll have it. Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy.

2000-04-12 00:00:00 - Re: The Outer Limits Companion? - (djohn37050@aol.com)


I bot mine on ebay from the author. Don Johnson

2000-04-12 00:00:00 - Re: The Outer Limits Companion? - (Thomas Rucki <pangloss@cybercable.fr>)


Nyarlathotep a *crit : > The OL C sounds great, I just wish that I could find a copy. > Unfortunately, none of my local (Berkeley, CA.) bookstores has it. I'll > visit the Virgin Records store in San Francisco tonight; perhaps they'll > have it. > > Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ > Before you buy. You'd better try at GNP Crescendo Records, this is the company who publishes the glossy book. http://www.gnpcrescendo.com/ Here's their adress: GNP/Crescendo Records 8480-A Sunset Boulevard Hollywood, CA 90069 Phone: 323-656-2614 Anyway, here is the comments: THE OUTER LIMITS COMPANION "THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH YOUR TELEVISION SET...." With these words, each week, the mysterious control voice would usher us to the furthest reaches of the human imagination - THE OUTER LIMITS, a realm inhabited by galaxy beings, alien invaders, interdimensional creatures creatures, chaotic energy clouds, demons with glass hands, Zanti misfits and superscience run amok. THE OUTER LIMITS COMPANION is a complete compendium to the classic anthology produced by Joseph Stephano and Leslie Stevens. Newly revised and updated it tells the whole story of this remarkable television series from its genesis to the present, with in depth commentary from over 100 of the program's prime movers both in front of the camera and behind the scenes Here are the plotlines, production background, critical overview and a wealth of incredibly rare photographs for each of the show's 49 episodes, as well as information on its subsequent influences on science fiction movies and TV as they are known today. THE OUTER LIMITS COMPANION is a rich, nostalgic memoir, an authoritative record, and an exciting journey back into the twilight of TV's golden age - over 420 pages with dozens and dozens of photos - a truly one-of-a- kind book about a genuinely unique series. ***End of Transmission*** Tom