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1998-12-26 00:00:00 - Theme Music - (wraith1@earthlink.net)


Do any of you prefer the theme to the original O.L. to the current theme? Rick

1998-12-27 00:00:00 - Re: Theme Music - (stoodin101@aol.com)


>Do any of you prefer the theme to the original O.L. to the current >theme? Favorite OL themes: 1. Dominic Frontiere theme 1963-64. Heard only at the END of the show, since the beginning was sound effects and sine wave. 2.Frontiere STING at beginning of 63-64 show. It sure got the point across. 3. Van Tongeren theme for new series, 1995-? It isn't as creepy as the Frontiere theme, and it obviously incorporates bits of Twilight Zone music (even as the opening incorporates bits of TZ imagery) to draw in the people who can't tell the series apart. But it isn't as bad as: 4. Harry Lubin theme, 1964-65. Awful electronic whining, almost exactly the same as his ONE STEP BEYOND theme. I read an article on the new OL, prior to its premiere, in OMNI magazine. This article indicated that we would see the sinewave pattern of the old show at the beginning of the new one and that, essentially, the new show's title and opening graphics would be very similar to the original's. I was really looking forward to that, and its absence was one of the things that I had to "get used to" to appreciate the new series. "It is said that Music is a universal language, crossing the barriers of culture, age, and language. Perhaps, eventually, we will learn that it also spans those of time... and space."

1998-12-27 00:00:00 - Re: Theme Music - (wraith1@earthlink.net)


Thank you. Rick StoOdin101 wrote: > >Do any of you prefer the theme to the original O.L. to the current > >theme? > > Favorite OL themes: > 1. Dominic Frontiere theme 1963-64. Heard only at the END of the show, since > the beginning was sound effects and sine wave. > > 2.Frontiere STING at beginning of 63-64 show. It sure got the point across. > > 3. Van Tongeren theme for new series, 1995-? It isn't as creepy as the > Frontiere theme, and it obviously incorporates bits of Twilight Zone music > (even as the opening incorporates bits of TZ imagery) to draw in the people who > can't tell the series apart. But it isn't as bad as: > > 4. Harry Lubin theme, 1964-65. Awful electronic whining, almost exactly the > same as his ONE STEP BEYOND theme. > > I read an article on the new OL, prior to its premiere, in OMNI magazine. This > article indicated that we would see the sinewave pattern of the old show at the > beginning of the new one and that, essentially, the new show's title and > opening graphics would be very similar to the original's. > > I was really looking forward to that, and its absence was one of the things > that I had to "get used to" to appreciate the new series. > > "It is said that Music is a universal language, crossing the barriers of > culture, age, and language. Perhaps, eventually, we will learn that it also > spans those of time... and space."

1998-12-29 00:00:00 - Re: Theme Music - (Oby Jaun <anonymous@system.com>)


On Sat, 26 Dec 1998 19:54:47 -0800, wraith1@earthlink.net wrote: >Do any of you prefer the theme to the original O.L. to the current >theme? > >Rick > > I DO like the new theme myself. I listened to the original one (via innermind.com), WITH enthusiasm and an open mind (since I knew it probably might be a li'l different), and wellll....I personally dont know how people reacted to it, back in '63 (or whenever it premiered?) but it sounds kinda ...cheesey, I dont mean to piss off any OOL fans out there, but I DO really enjoy the new opening. I WOULD like to see how good the original outer limits, since I think the new OL is fantastic (sure theres been a FEW sorta ...slow and even well not-so-cool episodes, but *I* personally think theres been more GOOD ones, than bad...at least those that I've seen so far) I am extreamly curious as to how the original one was. Btw, speaking of the different theme styles , umm...anyone happen to notice the MP3 version of the new OL theme file is missing from WWW.INNERMIND.COM?? If uh anyone DOES happen to have a copy of it, I'd love to get a copy - mine got screwed up, recently had harddrive problems (dont ya LOVE those!). Thanks! and long-live OL!

1998-12-29 00:00:00 - Re: Theme Music - (stoodin101@aol.com)


> I WOULD like to see how good the original outer >limits, since I think the new OL is fantastic (sure theres been a FEW sorta >...slow and even well not-so-cool episodes, but *I* personally think theres >been more GOOD ones, than bad...at least those that I've seen so far) I am >extreamly curious as to how the original one was. The original was top-heavy with monsters, per ABC edict. It was also very much more Gothic than the new series. To me, the old series was doing themes found in Lovecraft, Keller, Jacobi, Derleth and other writers of the 20s and 30s; the new series is doing stories that could have come from Sturgeon, Heinlein, Russell, Bester and other authors of the 40s and 50s. And the visual style is compatible with the type of stories as well. It is not "less artistic" but it IS different. The original series was sublime when it was at its best, though it had its share of dud episodes (and, percentage -wise, there were more duds in the old show than there are in the new one). The same can be said of the new series, and because it does NOT have the "monster" rule, it can do things the old series could never have tried, like the social-science fiction of FINAL EXAM or DARK RAIN. "It is said that Music is a universal language, crossing the barriers of culture, age, and language. Perhaps, eventually, we will learn that it also spans those of time... and space."

1999-01-02 00:00:00 - Re: Theme Music - (lorenr@peak.org)


In article <nabalzbhfflfgrzpbz.f4qa4u0.pminews@news.earthlink.net>, "Oby Jaun" <anonymous@system.com> wrote: > Btw, speaking of the different theme styles , umm...anyone happen to notice > the MP3 version of the new OL theme file is missing from WWW.INNERMIND.COM?? > If uh anyone DOES happen to have a copy of it, I'd love to get a copy - mine > got screwed up, recently had harddrive problems (dont ya LOVE those!). The web host does not allow MP3 files so they had to be removed. At about 1MB each they are too big to email. If someone has a site they can be put on I can make them available. Loren -----------== Posted via Deja News, The Discussion Network ==---------- http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Discuss, or Start Your Own

1999-01-03 00:00:00 - Re: Theme Music - (Oby Jaun <anonymous@system.com>)


> >The web host does not allow MP3 files so they had to be removed. At about >1MB each they are too big to email. If someone has a site they can be put >on I can make them available. > >Loren A site eh? Ummm...well, give "HOBBES.NMSU.EDU" (its actually an OS/2 repository/archives site) a try? If not that , try FTP.BMTMICRO.COM and try placing it inside the /BMTMICRO directory ...unsure if that still allows uploading though...darn. Well...either one of those (or both :), would probably be good for a li'l over a day...I will be keeping a close eye out on those, if you find them to be desirable uploading sites ...if any other(s) please list the site! Oh...if you are going to upload it as an alternate filename (i.e. not signifing an MP3 file extention) please post the filename ....it will make finding them a lot easier! :)

1999-01-09 00:00:00 - Re: Theme Music - (cghowe@aol.com)


I watched the new show once and that was enough. I continue to be a huge fan of the original show and its music since I started watching it in reruns in the late 60's. Frontiere new how to make the perfect music to suit that show. The first season would have been impossible w/o Frontiere. I have a good time trying to figure out the music by ear on my keyboard. The man is a genius. Each one of the "notes" of the closing theme is actually a five-part harmony. I'm afraid that the old days of having a small orchestra at a composer's disposal led to better music. Just look at the music from the MICE as an example or the ARCITHECTS OF FEAR "love themes". He wrote those with extraordinary passion. Chris H. Does anybody know if the pretty theme in the MICE with flutis accompanied by a theremin? Or is it just a synth. Itsounds both reeeddy and stringy which I hear that theremin's can also sound like compared to that papery vibrato hum. Thanks.

1999-01-09 00:00:00 - Re: Theme Music - (stoodin101@aol.com)


>Does anybody know if the pretty theme in the MICE with flutis accompanied by >a >theremin? Or is it just a synth. THere were no synths at that time, with the exception of the gigantic Mark IV at the Columbia/Princeton studio. I believe it is an Ondes Martenot, not a theremin. The OM was a similar instrument, but more controllable, and it used diffusers in the speaker cone to create different timbres. "It is said that Music is a universal language, crossing the barriers of culture, age, and language. Perhaps, eventually, we will learn that it also spans those of time... and space." --- THE OUTER LIMITS; "Music of the Spheres"

1999-01-10 00:00:00 - Re: Theme Music - (cghowe@aol.com)


Thank you for your answer about the theremin being a Ondes Martenot in this case. The more I've been hearing about theremins lately, I've been a little confused because it doesn't really have the timbre of the theremins I've heard and can definitely place. This Ondes thing (if your correct) which I can clearly recognize is probably also used on Star Trek (eg Man Trap) as a creepy monophonic instrument. Thanks again. Chris H.

1999-01-10 00:00:00 - Re: Theme Music - (stoodin101@aol.com)


>hank you for your answer about the theremin being a Ondes Martenot in this >case. The more I've been hearing about theremins lately, I've been a little >confused because it doesn't really have the timbre of the theremins I've >heard >and can definitely place. > >This Ondes thing (if your correct) which I can clearly recognize is probably >also used on Star Trek (eg Man Trap) as a creepy monophonic instrument. > It was definitely monophonic. You can hear it used to good effect in the music of Olivier Messiaen, particularly his grand Turangalila-Symphonie, which has quite a bit in common harmonically and melodically with Frontiere's OL music, actually! "It is said that Music is a universal language, crossing the barriers of culture, age, and language. Perhaps, eventually, we will learn that it also spans those of time... and space." --- THE OUTER LIMITS; "Music of the Spheres"

1999-01-13 00:00:00 - Re: Theme Music - (SPAMtenebraeBLOCK50@hotmail.com)


A few comments RE the old OL music........ >Favorite OL themes: >1. Dominic Frontiere theme 1963-64. Heard only at the END of the show, since >the beginning was sound effects and sine wave. > >2.Frontiere STING at beginning of 63-64 show. It sure got the point across. Some OL music was also composed by one of Frontiere's mentors, Robert van Eps, which can be heard on episodes like Tourist Attraction. Frontiere scored the first 7 or 8 episodes and then most of it was reused in subsequent episodes (common practice). Occasionally, as in Forms of Things Unknown, new music was composed. >4. Harry Lubin theme, 1964-65. Awful electronic whining, almost exactly the >same as his ONE STEP BEYOND theme. There were some innovations, though. He brought in a theremin, as others have pointed out. Lubin was paid so little for his work on OL, he responded by reusing whole sections from One Step Beyond, but also created new music for OL. Unfortunately, the new material was mostly loud yammer stuff to greet the appearance of the monster. Jeff Frentzen

1999-01-14 00:00:00 - Re: Theme Music - (stoodin101@aol.com)


>Frontiere scored the first 7 or 8 episodes and then most of it was >reused in subsequent episodes (common practice). New OL has gathered enough music now that occasionally one will hear the Inconstant Moon Love Theme or the Quality Of Mercy Pizzicato Of Doom on other eps, just as one often heard "The Bug Bugs Out" from Architects of Fear or "Love Theme From The Man Who Was Never Born" on old OL eps. Just helps give the show more of an identity. I wish the old music had been used, but since it wasn't, at least they realized they had to have BETTER music than the Sandkings or Valerie 23 were saddled with. And I was certainly happy to hear the trademark Stacked Fifths In The Strings in DARK RAIN and several other eps since then. > Occasionally, as in >Forms of Things Unknown, new music was composed. > Of course, FOTU was originally not an Outer Limits episode, hence the different music and missing Control Voice (though THE GUESTS, which was definitely an OL, also has no Control Voice, and has different music...that annoying bass throb!) "It is said that Music is a universal language, crossing the barriers of culture, age, and language. Perhaps, eventually, we will learn that it also spans those of time... and space." --- THE OUTER LIMITS; "Music of the Spheres"

1999-01-22 00:00:00 - Re: Theme Music - (jspivak@flash.net)


In article <19990114055958.17234.00000353@ng136.aol.com>, stoodin101@aol.com says... > > ...(though THE GUESTS, which was definitely an OL, >also has no Control Voice, and has different music...that annoying bass throb!) > Love that "bass throb"! It was a terrific music cue used whenever the "host" wished to have an audience with his guests (notably "drifter"). Too bad it wasn't included in the OL cd from a couple of years ago, but thank goodness I bought the original episode in '96.

1999-01-22 00:00:00 - Re: Theme Music - (Oby Jaun <anonymous@system.com>)


>says... >> >> ...(though THE GUESTS, which was definitely an OL, >>also has no Control Voice, and has different music...that annoying bass >throb!) >> > > >Love that "bass throb"! It was a terrific music cue used whenever the "host" >wished to have an audience with his guests (notably "drifter"). > >Too bad it wasn't included in the OL cd from a couple of years ago, but thank >goodness I bought the original episode in '96. > SPEAKING of theme scores....if anyones got a copy of the main theme score for the new outer limts, could they please send me a copy? I lost it, when I had a HD crash....undelete, nothing found any trace of it...yea, I also lost some other things, but alot of which is retrievable ....the site that HAD the main theme in MPEG layer 3 format, doesnt HAVE them anymore (and I dont have a clue why)! my email address is: trancser@nether.net unless you have another method in mind of sending a copy to ....a post inside the NG would also be fine! thanks!