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1998-02-08 00:00:00 - Outer Limits: racist? - (Adrian Penalo <adrianp@accesspro.net>)


I don't know about you, but I found the latest episode of the "Outer Limits" very racist indeed! I am talking about the episode aired on Sat 2/7/98 about the scientist/professor obsessed with evolution and his drug to accelerate it. According to his selection of 8 genetical perfect young people, only white blond caucasians are the ones. The writers tried to mask it a little with that black girl that refused to participate, but they don't fool anybody with that. I mean, I don't want to point anybody with the finger, but it's too much coincidence that only those blond white young people were despicted as "genetically perfect". Besides, many paleontologists and geneticists believe that black people may be gentically superior or at least gentically stronger than other races. They have observed that black people have better hand-eye coordination and better motor skills. Not to mention that black people have a bigger frontal lobe. In everyday life you can see how black people are the best athletes, artists, and many of the ones who have the educative opportunity outperform whites on high level intellectual activities. So, to the writers of the "Outer Limits", I advice you to revise the "reality background" of your stories, or at least make them a little politically correct.

1998-02-08 00:00:00 - Re: Outer Limits: racist? - (Mike Thompson <seacat@flash.net>)


Wow, and to think all this time I really believed we were all equal. Fool me. Mike BTW, damn I don't want to do this but, here in Texas the university system decided to cancel race based admission. Problem was that the study done showed that black/hispanic test results were lower than white. But they were given first chance for any admission to a school. Which means that future doctors/lawyers were people that scored the lowest, imagine that when you have a problem. So when they decided to cancel affirmative action based schooling almost every activist shouted racism at the top of their lungs. My problem is that you have a racial based system and deny education and jobs based on race why isn't is racist? Answer is simple, whites are not consider a race so they/we can have their rights under a color blind society denied. It is has struck me that this is the answer why radical race based groups, KKK/Aryan groups, have climbed in numbers. If you continually tell someone that we live in a racially neutral societ then deny them a job chance based on their race why shouldn't they become attracted to a group of nutballs that want to defend them? Adrian, I don't have an answer about the Outer Limits bit. I stopped watching the show along time ago. Way too depressing for me, live is depressing enough without having TV make it worse. But please dont promote that anyone or any group is superior to anyone else. That doctrine is the problem we are trying to stop. Mike Adrian Penalo wrote: > > I don't know about you, but I found the latest episode of the "Outer > Limits" very racist indeed! I am talking about the episode aired on Sat > 2/7/98 about the scientist/professor obsessed with evolution and his > drug to accelerate it. According to his selection of 8 genetical perfect > young people, only white blond caucasians are the ones. The writers > tried to mask it a little with that black girl that refused to > participate, but they don't fool anybody with that. I mean, I don't want > to point anybody with the finger, but it's too much coincidence that > only those blond white young people were despicted as "genetically > perfect". Besides, many paleontologists and geneticists believe that > black people may be gentically superior or at least gentically stronger > than other races. They have observed that black people have better > hand-eye coordination and better motor skills. Not to mention that black > people have a bigger frontal lobe. In everyday life you can see how > black people are the best athletes, artists, and many of the ones who > have the educative opportunity outperform whites on high level > intellectual activities. So, to the writers of the "Outer Limits", I > advice you to revise the "reality background" of your stories, or at > least make them a little politically correct.

1998-02-08 00:00:00 - Re: Outer Limits: racist? - (David DeRubeis <derubeis@worldnet.att.net>)


Adrian Penalo <adrianp@accesspro.net> wrote in article <34DD6BCF.681B@accesspro.net>... > Besides, many paleontologists and geneticists believe that > black people may be gentically superior or at least gentically stronger > than other races. They have observed that black people have better > hand-eye coordination and better motor skills. Not to mention that black > people have a bigger frontal lobe. In everyday life you can see how > black people are the best athletes, artists, and many of the ones who > have the educative opportunity outperform whites on high level > intellectual activities. You're not bolstering you're arguement with this kind of unattributed BS. Cite some papers and articles, please (although I'll hazard to guess that no paleontologist has anything useful to contribute to this subject). Otherwise I'll have to accuse you of the same type of crap that you're atributing to the new OL (which I can't comment on, as I only occasionally see it). David

1998-02-08 00:00:00 - Re: Outer Limits: racist? - (stoodin101@aol.com)


>In everyday life you can see how >black people are the best athletes, artists, and many of the ones who >have the educative opportunity outperform whites on high level >intellectual activities. So, to the writers of the "Outer Limits", I >advice you to revise the "reality background" of your stories, or at >least make them a little politically correct. > > Sheesh! Yeah,right. There are good and bad in every colour. There are black people that are great athletes and superior scientists, and there are also white, yellow, red and brown folks with the same virtues. There are black people who are liars, thieves and slouches, and again I can find the same sort of bums in white, yellow, red and brown as well. So all the genetically perfect group were Caucasian. Whoopee. I figure the OL casting directors just weren't thinking "must-appease-all- races" when they selected the cast for that ep. They were just doing their job, you know? And the very heroic, first-rate-citizen couple in DARK RAIN are black, while all the bad and nasty government guys are Caucasians. So there's the tradeoff. NECRONOMICON, all-instrumental electronic music inspired by H.P.Lovecraft, now available on c-60 cassette. E-mail StoOdin101@aol.com for details.

1998-02-08 00:00:00 - Re: Outer Limits: racist? - (mule@ou.edu)


apenal01@fiu.edu wrote: > I don't know about you, but I found the latest episode of the "Outer > Limits" very racist indeed! I am talking about the episode aired on Sat > 2/7/98 about the scientist/professor obsessed with evolution and his > drug to accelerate it. According to his selection of 8 genetical perfect > young people, only white blond caucasians are the ones. The writers > tried to mask it a little with that black girl that refused to > participate, but they don't fool anybody with that. I mean, I don't want > to point anybody with the finger, but it's too much coincidence that > only those blond white young people were despicted as "genetically > perfect". Besides, many paleontologists and geneticists believe that > black people may be gentically superior or at least gentically stronger > than other races. They have observed that black people have better > hand-eye coordination and better motor skills. Not to mention that black > people have a bigger frontal lobe. In everyday life you can see how > black people are the best athletes, artists, and many of the ones who > have the educative opportunity outperform whites on high level > intellectual activities. So, to the writers of the "Outer Limits", I > advice you to revise the "reality background" of your stories, or at > least make them a little politically correct. Sounds like the OL episode, if you accurately portrayed it, was racist and full of pseudo-scientific nonsense like "genetically perfect." But it also seems that you have the exact same problem in that you are guilty of the exact same sins which you are complaining about. You are clearly racist and are spouting pseudo-scientific nonsense of a "gentically [sic] superior" race. -- "Any sufficiently badly-written science is indistinguishable from magic." - Aaron Allston

1998-02-09 00:00:00 - Re: Outer Limits: racist? - (Mike Horne <mike@whispers.demon.co.uk>)


>Sheesh! Yeah,right. There are good and bad in every colour. There are black >people that are great athletes and superior scientists, and there are also >white, yellow, red and brown folks with the same virtues. There are black >people who are liars, thieves and slouches, and again I can find the same sort >of bums in white, yellow, red and brown as well. >So all the genetically perfect group were Caucasian. Whoopee. I figure the OL >casting directors just weren't thinking "must-appease-all- races" when they >selected the cast for that ep. They were just doing their job, you know? >And the very heroic, first-rate-citizen couple in DARK RAIN are black, while >all the bad and nasty government guys are Caucasians. So there's the tradeoff. Ouch! I was wondering, and if anyone can actually answer this I'd appreciate it, what the percentage of black actors to white actors is in Vancouver? -- Mike Horne mike@whispers.demon.co.uk * http://www.whispers.demon.co.uk "They say life is a river..."

1998-02-09 00:00:00 - Re: Outer Limits: racist? - (Mike Horne <mike@whispers.demon.co.uk>)


In article <34DD6BCF.681B@accesspro.net>, Adrian Penalo <adrianp@accesspro.net> writes >I don't know about you, but I found the latest episode of the "Outer >Limits" very racist indeed! I am talking about the episode aired on Sat (snip - you all know the rest) I must admit, I didn't notice because the episode was soooo bad I kinda switched off. On the other hand, if what you're saying was that noticeable, the producers got something wrong. BUT, on a personal note, the episode may have been accidentally racist, but your newsgroup posting wasn't much better... -- Mike Horne mike@whispers.demon.co.uk * http://www.whispers.demon.co.uk "They say life is a river..."

1998-02-11 00:00:00 - Re: Outer Limits: racist? - ("Adrian B. Penalo" <apenal01@fiu.edu>)


To the people who replied decently and intelligently to my posting about the OL episode, I sincerely apologize. I didn't intend to be rude or insulting. But I was so angry after I saw that episode, that I didn't even know what to say. I just got so con fussed and disgusted about the way the writers presented those young white people as the only "genetically perfect" from the other characters, that I had to say something. WE ARE ALL EQUALS, that is the only truth. WE ARE ALL HUMANS, just ONE SPECIE. Racism is one of the ugliest things a human being can feel. As a black, person I had to defend the integrity that episode robbed from the other characters that represented real life people. So, please, forgive and discard that senseless posting of mine. But one thing, I didn't really wanted to imply that black people is superior or not, but that we are not worse, and in every case equal. That case about the UofT, I wonder if those black/hispanic kids ever had the same educational opportunities as the other white kids? Anyway, in my posting I just highlighted a few real points I read from my sister's College level anthropology book from the chapter on Human Diversity, and from a special show I saw on the Discovery Channel. Anyhow, let's just forget that stupid posting of mine, which was only the product of momentary anger, and let's continue watching the OL. However, I advice more care next time from the writers OL. Adrian Penalo wrote: > > I don't know about you, but I found the latest episode of the "Outer > Limits" very racist indeed! I am talking about the episode aired on Sat > 2/7/98 about the scientist/professor obsessed with evolution and his > drug to accelerate it. According to his selection of 8 genetical perfect > young people, only white blond caucasians are the ones. The writers > tried to mask it a little with that black girl that refused to > participate, but they don't fool anybody with that. I mean, I don't want > to point anybody with the finger, but it's too much coincidence that > only those blond white young people were despicted as "genetically > perfect". Besides, many paleontologists and geneticists believe that > black people may be gentically superior or at least gentically stronger > than other races. They have observed that black people have better > hand-eye coordination and better motor skills. Not to mention that black > people have a bigger frontal lobe. In everyday life you can see how > black people are the best athletes, artists, and many of the ones who > have the educative opportunity outperform whites on high level > intellectual activities. So, to the writers of the "Outer Limits", I > advice you to revise the "reality background" of your stories, or at > least make them a little politically correct. -- Adrian Penalo (FIU-ECE) Miami, FL (USA)

1998-02-13 00:00:00 - Re: Outer Limits: racist? - ("Peter P." <ptp@primenet.com>)


RE: black people are the best artists And here I thought gay people were the best artists. Go figure. (just kidding, folks)