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1998-08-17 00:00:00 - New Nightmare - (jstrongbow@aol.com)


I liked the updated version of Nightmare. They did it without showing the Ebonites at all, which I hardly noticed until the end, and it still gripped me. Of course the double twist at the end was horrific enough to wipe out the fact that there was no cool-looking alien. I was hoping to see an updated version of the Ebonites, as the original aliens were really cool looking, but had such hoaky elements ( visible lines plastic lines around lips and eyes showing where the costume ended- though not as bad as the Kardassian's human eye area ) that it ruined the effect for me. The ending truly DID make it a Nightmare.

1998-08-17 00:00:00 - Re: New Nightmare - (hrlaser@netcom.com)


JStrongbow (jstrongbow@aol.com) wrote: : I liked the updated version of Nightmare. They did it without showing the : Ebonites at all, which I hardly noticed until the end, and it still gripped me. : Of course the double twist at the end was horrific enough to wipe out the fact : that there was no cool-looking alien. I was hoping to see an updated version of : the Ebonites, as the original aliens were really cool looking, but had such : hoaky elements ( visible lines plastic lines around lips and eyes showing where : the costume ended- though not as bad as the Kardassian's human eye area ) that : it ruined the effect for me. The ending truly DID make it a Nightmare. I kind of like the original better.. the set was more stark, just an expanse of black floor and a bunch of rocks jutting up here and there. Yes, in retrospect, the original Ebonites' costuming and makeup looks hokey today but back in the early 60s it made more of an impact. Hell, even the "mutants" in the original "Invaders from Mars" scared the crap out of me when I was a kid, and you could plainly see the zipper seams up the backs of their full body costumes. :) But I couldn't help wonder about the similarity of the ending of the new version to so many Outer Limits the past couple seasons - haven't a lot of them ended almost the same way, with some people standing around watching their world blow up due to a bomb, an exploding star, or something similar that they're powerless to stop? It seems this is almost turning into a formula-type ending in this series. And it's infected other series like Stargate SG-1, as well as countless movies that feature the omnipresent nuclear device with a red LED countdown timer, although the hero usually saves the day just as the counter reaches some number below 10. (Goldfinger and The Andromeda Strain and that John Woo film with Travolta a couple years ago being some prime examples that immediately come to mind). Harv (ICQ 12346580) | "Do you recognize the harv@amigazone.com | Bell of Truth when you http://www.amigazone.com | hear it ring?" A1200/030, A2500/060, CDTV :) | - Leon Russell

1998-08-17 00:00:00 - Re: New Nightmare - (stoodin101@aol.com)


>And it's infected other series like Stargate SG-1, as well as countless >movies that feature the omnipresent nuclear device with a red LED >countdown timer, although the hero usually saves the day just as the >counter reaches some number below 10. Outer Limits villains set _their_ bombs to go off when the timer reaches 11. "Thereafter I heard Zann every night, and although he kept me awake, I was haunted by the weirdness of his music." --- H.P. Lovecraft, _The Music of Erich Zann_