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2000-07-21 00:00:00 - episodes i like,,,but - (collidinggalaxy@webtv.net)


i like O.L. but. i just dont pay any atten. to the tittle's of the shows,,, here's a list of a few i like, remember i dont know the names of the episodes..... 1 ) alien force scoops up a town, to test them for slaves.. 2) in a so called perfect society, everyone has implants to link up with the world computer called [ the stream ] 3) presidents 1st day on the job, he has to deal with a hostile force that just blew--up the far side of the moon. [ aquatic aliens ] 4) the light sail episode, were a deaf woman and an x scientist construct a laser to save peaceful aliens from crashing into our sun ,,,,,,,,, '' my fav. one 5) 2 part episode in which a professor injects himself w/alien dna , then leads 8 students to a transport vessel, which test them, then ends up saving humanity 6) reptile aliens conquer earth, they have deeeeeep voices,, and the human slaves call them ''my lord''.. w/ bret spiner .....

2000-07-22 00:00:00 - Re: episodes i like,,,but - (stoodin101@aol.com)


>1 ) alien force scoops up a town, to test them for slaves.. Feasibility Study. A remake of Joseph Stefano's story from the 60s series, written again by Stefano, in fact. I wish I had seen this one without having the original indelibly etched in my mind, because I have a feeling it's a lot better than I give it credit for. But knowing the ending defeats the suspense... >2) in a so called perfect society, everyone has implants to link up >with the world computer called [ the stream ] > Stream of Consciousness. GREAT ep, and only OL could make that premise work. Why? Because on any other show, we'd all know that Janeway or Sheridan or Picard or Sisko or those guys on Sliders, Farscape, First Wave, X-Files, etc etc, would STOP the menace. On OL one never can be sure if the menace won't come out on top. >3) presidents 1st day on the job, he has to deal with a hostile force >that just blew--up the far side of the moon. [ aquatic aliens ] Trial by Fire. One of Brad Wright's triumphs before he left to work on the terribly inferior but vastly more popular Stargate SG-1. > >4) the light sail episode, were a deaf woman and an x scientist >construct a laser to save peaceful aliens from crashing into our sun >,,,,,,,,, '' my fav. one The Message. Another Brad Wright ep. Very fine, but the ending Wright wanted for it would have been better and more memorable than the one Lewis insisted on. Nevertheless, it works. >5) 2 part episode in which a professor injects himself w/alien dna , >then leads 8 students to a transport vessel, which test them, then ends >up saving humanity > Double Helix and Origin of the Species. The first part is superb. The second part should never have been made. Or at least that's my opinion. >6) reptile aliens conquer earth, they have deeeeeep voices,, and the >human slaves call them ''my lord''.. w/ bret spiner ..... The Deprogrammers. Great direction by Joseph Scanlan on that one. And regardless of all the competition, it has the ending that freaked me out the most of any of them. "If you've spent your entire life developing and perfecting the hydrogen bomb, you probably shouldn't be proud of the fact." --- Dmitri Shostakovich

2000-07-23 00:00:00 - Re: episodes i like,,,but ( j.b.l.) - (collidinggalaxy@webtv.net)


thanks for your help, you sure know your O.L. i dont have showtime to watch o.l. on but, i do get to watch o.l. on the scifi channel on monday , when they show 4 apisodes in a row, plus fox has an episode on every sun. night also... later

2000-07-23 00:00:00 - Re: episodes i like,,,but - let's add my opinion - (David Mitz <dmitz@cybercable.fr>)


J.B.L. a �crit: > >1 ) alien force scoops up a town, to test them for slaves.. > > Feasibility Study. A remake of Joseph Stefano's story from the 60s series, > written again by Stefano, in fact. I wish I had seen this one without having > the original indelibly etched in my mind, because I have a feeling it's a lot > better than I give it credit for. But knowing the ending defeats the > suspense... > Well, while I was watching it I felt something was wrong in this episode. Unfortunately, I have never seen the original version, but I felt Ken Girotti's direction was rather poor. I thought it failed a little, because the town that was abducted consisted mainly of old folks, and therefore was not really representative of the rest of the population : the only 'relatively young' person in it was McCallum's daughter. It wasn't realistic at all, which was sad. However, it was such a technical wonder for a TV show !! XFX's makeups are always astounding (both very well done, and, more importantly, wonderful to look at). > > >2) in a so called perfect society, everyone has implants to link up > >with the world computer called [ the stream ] > > > > Stream of Consciousness. GREAT ep, and only OL could make that premise work. > Why? Because on any other show, we'd all know that Janeway or Sheridan or > Picard or Sisko or those guys on Sliders, Farscape, First Wave, X-Files, etc > etc, would STOP the menace. On OL one never can be sure if the menace won't > come out on top. > >3) presidents 1st day on the job, he has to deal with a hostile force > >that just blew--up the far side of the moon. [ aquatic aliens ] > > Trial by Fire. One of Brad Wright's triumphs before he left to work on the > terribly inferior but vastly more popular Stargate SG-1. > I won't say that SG-1 is _that_ inferior to OL. Some shows, like the Season 1 final shows, are really ambitious and have an OL feel to it. In the ep where Jackson travels to another reality and witnesses a Goa'uld attack, Wright and Glassner managed to have all the alternate heroes killed, which was really fun. Even with SG-1, Wright allowed himself to end the world once or twice !! Plus it seems Wright himself preferred working on OL than on SG1. At least that's what he said on an interview on the official OL web page. > > > > >4) the light sail episode, were a deaf woman and an x scientist > >construct a laser to save peaceful aliens from crashing into our sun > >,,,,,,,,, '' my fav. one > > The Message. Another Brad Wright ep. Very fine, but the ending Wright wanted > for it would have been better and more memorable than the one Lewis insisted > on. Nevertheless, it works. > > >5) 2 part episode in which a professor injects himself w/alien dna , > >then leads 8 students to a transport vessel, which test them, then ends > >up saving humanity > > > > Double Helix and Origin of the Species. The first part is superb. The second > part should never have been made. Or at least that's my opinion. > That's my opinion too. S4's sequels were all uninteresting. Mary 25 looked like 'another sexy episode' and nothing more, and I didn't like at all the clich� of having a disrespectful husband who cheats his wife and beats her. OL used it too many times (Unnatural Selection, Balance of Nature...) The good side of Promised Land was that it was barely a sequel, since none of the original characters appeared in it. The bad side was its completely cheesy conclusion. As for Criminal Nature, it was an episode made to be only entertaining, and was not very interesting. The strength of Unnatural Selection was its very clever parable on genetics manipulations, and we found nothing left of that debate in CN. > > >6) reptile aliens conquer earth, they have deeeeeep voices,, and the > >human slaves call them ''my lord''.. w/ bret spiner ..... > > The Deprogrammers. Great direction by Joseph Scanlan on that one. And > regardless of all the competition, it has the ending that freaked me out the > most of any of them. There was one wonderful moment in this one, that I probably will remember all my life : it was Ewan, rediscovering his own humanity by making grimaces in front of a mirror. It was very poetic. An incredible image. - David. -- "Menteuse ! La vie, c'est l'espoir, dis-tu ? Eh bien regarde-moi. Je vis, et l'espoir est mort, car je sais ce qui m'attend." Eurypide, Les Troyennes.

2000-07-24 00:00:00 - Re: episodes i like,,,but - let's add my opinion - (stoodin101@aol.com)


> I thought it failed a little, because the town that >was abducted consisted mainly of old folks, and therefore was not really >representative of >the rest of the population : the only 'relatively young' person in it was >McCallum's daughter In the original, ABC wouldn't permit ANY kids to be put in peril, so the _whole_ community is old folks. Even one girl was better than none, I guess. Ken Girotti didn't impress me much as an OL director (see THE REFUGE for a real blunder -- his filming of the dream-monsters at the end, making them look silly instead of threatening.) but I felt like the finish was staged better on the new one than it was on the original, Byron Haskin notwithstanding. However, Girotti can't keep his crummy camera off the alien Triunes, and so every seam and zipper is all too obvious --- just like THE REFUGE. A better director could have made those creatures a lot more convincing. The costumes were neat enough...but couldn't stand up to brilliantly lit closeups (sheesh!) > I won't say that SG-1 is _that_ inferior to OL. Well, I will, then. Can't stand that show! Once OL goes off the air, my Showtime subscription goes with it... "If you've spent your entire life developing and perfecting the hydrogen bomb, you probably shouldn't be proud of the fact." --- Dmitri Shostakovich