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1997-07-28 00:00:00 - "Stargate SG1 a Sliders Ripoff!" - not. - (root@[127.0.0.1])


In the unlikely event that you wish to contact me via e-mail, my actual address is: j a b o e [at] n y x [dot] n y x [dot] n e t (Spam is getting worse) << Any names mentioned in this posting to the Usenet >> << newsgroup, alt.tv.sliders, are only included for >> << purposes of properly attributing quoted material. >> On Sun, 27 Jul 1997 22:07:38, Slider121 <slider121@geocities.com> from University of Rhode Island (how his/her professors will wince when they see this!) boldly exercised his/her right to free speech (with the "think before speaking" option switched off) with this: => => I just watched Stargate: SG1 on Showtime, and in my opinion => its a Sliders ripoff. The premise is that a team travles from => earth to other worlds via a stargate or a "wormhole". Wormhole => is a Sliders term. => Just my opinion! Oh, my little dumpling. Let me deal with your unthinking foolishness point by point: First, I believe the movie "Stargate" aired before SLIDERS came out. If I am mistaken, well, it won't be the first time nor will it be the last. Thusly, if "ripoff" MUST be applied, it can't be Stargate ripping off SLIDERS. Second, SLIDERS deals with parallel worlds. As the intro states, "same world, different dimension" or words to that effect. SG-1 deals with travel from Earth to other planets in the same dimension. Lastly, "wormhole" has been around for a long, long time. Albert Einstein first postulated the notion of parallel worlds from concepts derived from his theory of relativity. Thus, the notion and the term "wormhole" have been around for about fifty or so years. SLIDERS in no way has any sort of claim on the word or the scientific concepts behind it. Not just my opinion - fact. James -- "You have not taken the time to think your words through and it shows. Go over there and do not speak again." -- Vincent Renspear to Deadly Duck

1997-07-29 00:00:00 - Kari AOL Chat Transcript 1/2 - (puz1@aol.com)


OK, folks - here's the transcript of the Kari chat; I've split it in two parts cause it was so gosh-darned big... Anyway, it's a hoot in some spots. <g> Enjoy. AnnieM DISCLAIMER: The following text belongs to America OnLine, I guess. Anyway, I did not write it. *********BEGIN TRANSCRIPT************ OnlineHost: Copyright 1997 Oldsmobile; licensed to America Online, Inc. OnlineHost: Your hosts for tonight's Oldsmobile Celebrity Circle are Bob XR (AOLiveMC10) and Rusti I (AOLiveMC1). OnlineHost: Kari Wuhrer can be seen as 'Maggie' on the TV series "Sliders" on the Sci Fi channel. She was also on the MTV series "Remote Control." Kari is currently in production with David Schwimmer on the independent film, "Kissing a Fool." She will soon be seen in the feature film "Phoenix" with Ray Liotta and Anjelica Huston. Kari is also set to begin recording an album when all her film work is finished. Welcome! AOLiveMC10: Kari Wuhrer, welcome to America Online and Oldsmobile's Celebrity Circle! KWuhrer: I'm crazy enough to be here again! AOLiveMC10: Sliderhea sends this question: Question: What made you decide to take the role of "MAGGIE"? KWuhrer: I decided to take the role because I was impressed with the amount of confidence that the producers of the show seemed to have in me. And the character is so 180 degrees from myself, I thought it would be fun to give it a try. AOLiveMC10: ClarkNR60 wants to know: Question: Kari, do you have a website? KWuhrer: Yes. But remember that the nude pictures aren't necessarily me. The urls are http://www.ime.net/akira/ks_main.htm and http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/Hills/1404/. These are unofficial websites. AOLiveMC10: Hydra4Me sends this question: Question: In SLIDERS, is it hard to act when the dinos and other computer generated effects aren't really there? KWuhrer: I've worked with actors who give me less than the visual puppets they use for the dinosaurs or the snake in Anaconda, so faking it like I sometimes have to do is a piece of cake. AOLiveMC10: TLykins51 asks this question: Question: I think you do a great job on Sliders. One question- What is it like working with David Shwimmer?? KWuhrer: David is such a huge star right now that I'm not sure he even notices that I'm there. He's really funny/neurotic, has so much going on that I just stare in awe at him all the time. And he's not as tall as he looks on film. AOLiveMC10: Steve2131 asks this question: Question: Do you think that Sliders could one day become the name of a movie, relating to the show? KWuhrer: Give us a break. We're struggling to stay on the air as it is. Fox didn't want us. Maybe 20th Century Fox will? AOLiveMC10: Jim007Bond would like to know: Question: Hi Kari--what is the secret to staying paced and focused in your busy career? KWuhrer: Heineken? (laughs) AOLiveMC10: Another from Mr. Bond: Question: What do you find most challenging and most rewarding about acting? Why? KWuhrer: Most challenging is making TV scripts sound halfway believable. And most rewarding is meeting the people and hearing about how much they like what I'm doing. AOLiveMC10: Slayer104 asks this question: Question: Are you going to find romance with Remmy or Quinn? KWuhrer: Hopefully, both! (laughs) I'm a **** AOLiveMC10: Rock2acid wants to know: Question: What are you doing now, and what's to come in the future? KWuhrer: Right now, I'm working on my music and playing with my band, and hopefully the future will bring a very good record. AOLiveMC10: Mr. Bond sends another: Question: Who are some of the actors and actresses you watch for inspiration? KWuhrer: Wow! That's such a hard question. I get inspired by a lot of young people because their dedication seems so true but I still get turned on by Jodie Foster, Ray Liotta and Tim Roth. AOLiveMC10: CMorris64 asks this question: Question: I liked sliders season finale. Can you say anything about what's going to happen in the new season on the Sci-Fi channel? KWuhrer: :::kiss kiss::: Maggie's going to loosen up! AOLiveMC10: Mukun wants to know: Question: What types of roles do you hope to play in the future? KWuhrer: Well, I'd like to play a really junked up, stressed out, addicted young woman so when I'm doing my research, I could learn about myself. Just kidding. AOLiveMC10: JNanz1023 sends this question: Question: What kind of music are you looking to get into? KWuhrer: Well, I've been playing music for years and years and years. It's the reason I moved to LA. Acting sort of found me. But my music is rooted in alternative rock and roll with some very child/woman qualities. If you want to hear a sample, the website at http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/Hills/1404/ has some sound bites from my CD that you can listen to. AOLiveMC10: Foxcr4 asks this question: Question: What was the first thing you ever did that involved acting, and the first thing you did that ever appeared on TV KWuhrer: The first thing I did that involved acting was speaking. (laughs) The first thing I appeared in was a movie called "Fire with Fire" that starred Virginia Madsen and Craig Schaeffer. AOLiveMC10: NdulgEnce would like to know: Question: Who is your favorite actor/actress and why? KWuhrer: Well, I am a cult fan of the late, great Tallulah Bankhead because she was eccentric and confident and she always used to say, "It doesn't matter what they say about you, darling, as long as they're talking." AOLiveMC10: Vicky5946 asks this question: Question: Do you enjoy acting the most? KWuhrer: Every job is different. I love performing. Right now, I am getting off and getting high on playing music but like the seasons, things change, man. AOLiveMC10: CDswanda wants to know: Question: You look great! How do you stay in shape? KWuhrer: I work my tuschie off 4 days a week with the personal trainer from hell. I never used to have to do that. AOLiveMC10: GBabar sends this question: Question: REMOTE CONTROL is one of my all-time favorite game shows. How was it working with Ken Ober? KWuhrer: Ken Ober taught me a lot about the word "insanity." He was so funny and so quick. I'd like to work with him again. AOLiveMC10: Jim007bond sends this question: Question: What has been the greatest personal obstacle you have had to overcome in order to attain your success? KWuhrer: Fear. When I was in high school, I was always the girl everybody picked on. They told me I couldn't sing, my clothes were freaky, I was weird, too outgoing. It did a number on my confidence. Not like Hollywood's any better. (laughs) AOLiveMC10: Jj0458 would like to know: Question: How did the title Sliders come about? KWuhrer: I have no idea. I came in in the middle. I accepted it. Thought about some if their stories come about. The movies maybe? AOLiveMC10: Janitor11 sends this question: Question: What do you find most challenging about dramatic acting? KWuhrer: The most challenging part about dramatic acting is really, really believing that you are there in the moment. I call it "entering the vapor" and the secret is keeping your imagination active and exercised. It's really, really hard for adults. Kids seem to have no problem. AOLiveMC10: Becky Dr sends this question: Question: What prompted you to pursue a career in acting? KWuhrer: I needed all the attention I could get. I was very self-centered, conceited and needed a stage a second I could get. But seriously...Wait, I was serious. (laughs) AOLiveMC10: Mangolin sends this question: Question: IS IT HARD TO SHOOT THE SPECIAL EFFECTS SCENE'S? KWuhrer: Hmmm... You have to use your imagination and put objects where they aren't and people where they aren't, all up against the blue screen. I don't know if you saw the Breeder episode of Sliders. I believe it's on this evening, but they had to fit my mouth with prosthetics that were very phallic. It was hard to stop laughing. AOLiveMC10: Cyndro would like to know: Question: Kari, in "Sliders", does your character have some similarities of you in real life? KWuhrer: None whatsoever. If I could be as strong-willed as Maggie Beckett, I might get my agent to call me once in awhile. AOLiveMC10: DaveyH asks this question: Question: Why did they kill off the professor on Sliders? KWuhrer: He chose to move on. John has done a lot with his career. Sliders just couldn't keep him as interested anymore. I wish him all the luck. He's a great, great actor. AOLiveMC10: ThornLV would like to find out: Question: What was the name of the movie you made where you went back time in a Porsche? KWuhrer: (laughs). Oh No!!!!! OH NO NO!!!!!!!!!!! It's haunting me again! That would be "Beastmaster 2." Don't try renting it. I hear all the copies are gone or are being rented. AOLiveMC10: StarsMinn sends this question: Question: What star would you like to work with in the future, either TV or film? KWuhrer: I'd love to work with Susan Sarandon. Maybe to play her sister or her daughter. And I'd LOVE to work with Harrison Ford and maybe play his...you know. (laughs) And Sean Penn again, of course. This time as an actor and not a director. ***********END PART ONE OF TWO**********

1997-07-29 00:00:00 - Kari AOL Chat Transcript 2/2 - (puz1@aol.com)


DISCLAIMER: Contents belong to America OnLine, Inc. **********PART TWO OF TWO************ AOLiveMC10: Fainsterr asks this question: Question: Do u enjoy doing sci-fi type films? KWuhrer: Love them! Love them. Love them. Love them. It is never boring. I love comic books so sci-fi to me is like playing a great interesting imaginative game. AOLiveMC10: Bob Hate would like to know: Question: Hi Kari. Loved you since the first time I heard you say: "When Remote Control continuuuuues." Where could a guy like me find some Kari merchandise? T-shirts, photos, autographs, etc.? KWuhrer: Movie memorabilia stores, maybe. But I don't make any money on that. AOLiveMC10: JRW97 asks this question: Question: Hi Kari- Were there any current female musicians that inspired you to make a record? KWuhrer: Of course! Ricki Lee Jones just put out a new record. Then there's always Joni Mitchell and the success of Alanis Morisette makes my $$ signs giggle. AOLiveMC10: TeenCam would like to know: Question: You are a role model to a lot of people out there. Who was your role model in your childhood? KWuhrer: Well, my dad, of course, who always had the strongest sense of a moral backbone. But I had this girlfriend in school. Her name was Laura Clark and I always looked up to her inner strength. Nowadays, of course, my role models come from television. AOLiveMC10: Where do you see yourself in 5 years Kari? KWuhrer: Well, right now I'm building my house. In 5 years, I'd like to see myself sitting in it, finished. That would be nice. AOLiveMC10: JMaguirex asks this question: Question: I used to enjoy watching the show, 'Class of 96.' Was that a fun show to do and were you disappointed when it was canceled? KWuhrer: That show was an amazing experience. All the actors and writers were so dedicated it was critically acclaimed. I had such an arc planned for my character and when it was canceled, my world crashed for a minute or two. I loved it. AOLiveMC10: Hyperick3 asks this question: Question: Why do you think the show is not doing as well as Fox hoped it would and what would you do to make it better? KWuhrer: Okay, let's talk about this quietly. I would come up with more imaginative story lines that came from the "what if" possibilities, and not the movies. The Sliders have infinite possibilities, and I think it would be fun to explore that a little bit more intelligently. AOLiveMC10: Cgr97 would like to know: Question: Do you want to direct? KWuhrer: Believe it or not, no. Too much work. Writing, yes. Directing, nah -- I'll pass....for now. AOLiveMC10: REN279 would like to find out: Question: What was it like working for MTV, and more specifically Remote Control? KWuhrer: MTV was always a party. Free tickets, free stuff. I like free stuff. Remote Control was like being a part of the beginning of what MTV is now and I don't know if I like that. I still think MTV should still be for music. Shhhhhh....I didn't just say that (laughs) AOLiveMC10: TheFO0L asks this question: Question: Have you ever considered/done stage acting? KWuhrer: I did it when I was a kid and I'd love to go back. It's just in Los Angeles, there isn't much to be found as far as the stage goes. When I'm brave enough to go back to NY where I started, I'd love to look into it again. AOLiveMC10: JDimmerli sends this question: Question: When is your record coming out? Soon I hope. I am really curious. KWuhrer: Hmm...I'll have to consult a psychic on that one. I'm still looking for a deal. Any relatives in the business? AOLiveMC10: QueenieSA would like to know: Question: What is the most important thing you have learned from doing the show ? KWuhrer: The most important thing I've learned from doing the show is to get along with others and respect the changing moods of actors. TV is a very close-knit 16 hour day. People get on each other's nerves. AOLiveMC10: Knowing what you know now, what would you go back and change about your career? KWuhrer: I would have kept my clothes on more. Not taken every job that was offered to me, and stood up for myself as a woman. No regrets, though! AOLiveMC10: REN279 asks this question: Question: What genre of music are you currently playing? KWuhrer: It's a female alternative act. Of course, me being female, that would make sense. AOLiveMC10: MLBambi asks this question: Question: What time slot will sliders have on the sci-fi channel? KWuhrer: I don't know anything about that yet. We haven't gotten into any details. We don't even know when we're starting. If you find out, let me know. AOLiveMC10: TamaraSt sends this question: Question: Which do you like best your music or acting? KWuhrer: At different times in my life, I have different needs for creative expression. Acting, I am at the mercy of the industry and I am confined to the boundaries of a script and of television or whatever the medium is. With music, I can sit alone and play guitar and write or sing whenever I want. I don't need anybody else. So, sometimes acting is taking up my time and attention and it's great. Other times, it's music. So that's really a hard question to answer and I'm just rambling now. AOLiveMC10: Did being on MTV have any influence on you're deciding to cut an album? KWuhrer: If anything, that would keep me away from music because I've seen how difficult it is to break in. But I've always loved music and that's why I was VJaying in MTV and so involved with the network in the first place. AOLiveMC10: Yaloza would like to know: Question: Is it hard to be taken as a serious actress after being the party type on MTV? KWuhrer: Yes. And yes. And yes. And yes. But that doesn't stop me from trying. (laughs) AOLiveMC10: Rage MacQ asks this question: Question: What kinds of roles do you enjoy to play, or what qualities do you enjoy to portrait in your characters? KWuhrer: I always enjoy playing someone with spunk and attitude and a zest for life because it brings my spirits up and keeps me happy all day long. And keeps me in touch with that side of myself. But the real challenge comes from playing someone with a serious conflict, either emotionally or physically. And those roles don't come about that often. At least not for me. AOLiveMC10: BlkHpy sends this question: Question: Kari, what's your goal as an actress? What do you want to be remembered for? KWuhrer: The best chat room chatter of all time!!! I'd like for people to say, "She was fun to watch. She's good!" AOLiveMC10: JMaguirex would like to know: Question: Wondered how you felt doing scenes with Jack Nicholson in 'The Crossing Guard'? KWuhrer: Nervous as hell until he took me under his wing and taught me how the hell to do what he does so well. The flirting wasn't bad, either. AOLiveMC10: Lexdimend sends this question: Question: What is your most embarrassing moment? KWuhrer: Well, I've probably blacked it out but I'm sure it had something to do with *******. (laughs) AOLiveMC10: Drgnfyre1 would like to know: Question: Have you ever considered convention appearances, to meet your fans? KWuhrer: I'd be scared no one would show up, but I have a hard time believing that people actually dig me. It's weird. Believe me, I appreciate it. But conventions? Hmm... AOLiveMC10: A lot of your fans want to know if there's an address for fan mail. KWuhrer: You can always write me c/o Universal Studios or even my publicist Baker, Winnoker, Ryder. Address? Just Yahoo! AOLiveMC10: There is time for one final question. ZR5000 would like to know: Question: How many hours do you spend working for each episode of Sliders? KWuhrer: We shoot an episode in usually 7 or 8 days and we could work up to 16hours a day. It's brutal, man. I spend a lot of money on massage. AOLiveMC10: Thanks for joining us here tonight Kari, it was very entertaining! KWuhrer: Where do you guys come up with these screennames? AOLiveMC10: (laughs) KWuhrer: Thanks so much for all of your energy, support and time. Go do something else. (laughs) Now. You'll hurt your eyes. It's overwhelming to me that you guys sat through this. Thanks and if there's anything I could do, write me a letter, drop me a note and I'll be back soon. AOLiveMC10: Thanks to each of you in the audience for being here also! Good night! OnlineHost: All good things must end. We've run out of time for this event! OnlineHost: Copyright 1997 Oldsmobile; licensed to America Online, Inc. ======================== More about this Event: Kari Wuhrer, the MTV vixen turned feature film star, brings a unique blend of inherent acting ability and sensuality to all of her film and television roles. Now, this rising luminary is embarking on a music career as well. Wuhrer's latest screen ventures are roles in seven very diverse films. Kari is currently in production on Doug Ellins' KISSING A FOOL opposite David Schwimmer. She recently finished shooting PHOENIX (Lakeshore Entertainment), co-starring Ray Liotta and Angelica Huston and THE IVORY TOWER with James Wilder and Patrick Van Horn. Additionally, she will be seen in the upcoming SEX AND THE SINGLE MAN with Stanley Tucci and Ron Eldard, as well as SAND with Emilio Estevez and Denis Leary and TOUCH ME with Amanda Peete and Michael Vartan. The busy actress also just finished filming UNDERTAKER'S WEDDING opposite Adrien Brody which was recently accepted at the Montreal Film Festival. As if her busy feature schedule was not full enough, Kari can also be seen on the small screen as 'Maggie Beckett' on the television show, SLIDERS (Universal). Wuhrer will begin her second season this fall. The show was picked up for 22 episodes by the Sci-Fi Channel. In addition to her roles in front of the camera, Kari is also focusing on her true love, her music career. She has been in the studio recording an album and shopping around for a music label. The Brookfield, Connecticut native moved to New York when she was eighteen to follow her passion for acting. Kari was picked by the Ford Talent Agency, and proceeded to study and audition in the Big Apple. Her big break came when her sexy personality caught the attention of MTV and the producers of their innovative game show REMOTE CONTROL. After two years, Kari left MTV and continued her climb towards bigger projects. She moved to Los Angeles and landed a principal role as 'Robin Farr' on FOX Network's CLASS OF '96. Wuhrer emerged as a big success from the show, and even developed such a rampant following that she was labeled the newest Generation-X icon. Her last work on a series was a recurring role on the ever-popular BEVERLY HILLS, 90210. Her notoriety finally opened enough doors to allow her to show off her talent. Kari's allure was irrefutable, and movie roles streamed through the door. The starlet was cast in several critically acclaimed dramatic features including John Singleton's HIGHER LEARNING, THE DISAPPEARANCE OF KEVIN JOHNSON, AN OCCASIONAL HELL with Tom Berenger, and under Sean Penn's direction as Jack Nicholson's liaison in THE CROSSING GUARD. She was seen opposite Joe Mantegna in THINNER, the latest ghoulish tale from author Stephen King to hit the big screen. Most recently, Wuhrer co-starred in ANACONDA with Jennifer Lopez and Jon Voight in the scary thriller about man-eating snakes. Kari currently resides in Los Angeles with her husband who is a songwriter. **********END*************

1997-07-30 00:00:00 - Re: Kari Transcript 2/2 - (Hackett <hackett@fia.net>)


Brandy Alexandre wrote: > > In article <33df5c03.0@newscene>, Joel Mack <whooter@oasis.novia.net> wrote: > > >What's she doing that's immoral? > > Well, okay, I wouldn't say that anything she's doing/done is immoral. But to > say that your dad is a role model and a moral man, and then to take off your > clothes, and alter portions of your body just to attract men (and not > necessarily more roles) is a little conflicting to me. Not necessarily... Just because an individual's parents are moral does not necessarily mean that the children will be the same. > >And the mainstream movies and tv shows you've been in are...? > > That has nothing to do with it. On this point we agree... Did Joel Mack have an actual point to this? I haven't been in ANY mainstream movies, but I'll bet I represent at least 10% of the scrutinies relative to the standard viewing audience. We're simply sharing opinions here.

1997-07-30 00:00:00 - Re: Kari Transcript (what's with you?) - (Hackett <hackett@fia.net>)


Joel Mack wrote: > > Brandy Alexandre <brandy@kamikaze.xxx> wrote: > : In article <19970729043601.AAA08954@ladder02.news.aol.com>, puz1@aol.com (Puz1) wrote: > > : I bet she doesn't come to this ng. > > Probably not. I'm not sure why *I* do, except maybe to tweak you... Yeah, I have noticed this "trend"...though I'm not sure where it stems from. > : Yeah, it shows. She has pretty low self-esteem. > > Yeah, it takes a lot of self-esteem to hide behind a keyboard and monitor > and sling insults at someone more successful than yourself... Hide? Sling insults? Who's talkin'? > How come I don't see you shooting flaming barbs at Bill Gates? Brandi probably has nothing against Mr. Gates. However, just to satiate your Id. "Bill Gates has a bad haircut." Roberto

1997-07-30 00:00:00 - Re: Kari AOL Chat Transcript 2/2 - (Joel Mack <whooter@oasis.novia.net>)


Brandy Alexandre <brandy@kamikaze.xxx> wrote: : >KWuhrer: Well, my dad, of course, who always had the strongest sense of a : >moral backbone. : Just because he was a model obviously doesn't mean she patterned her life : after him. What's she doing that's immoral? : >KWuhrer: Yes. And yes. And yes. And yes. But that doesn't stop me from : >trying. (laughs) : Still hasn't come close to attaining it. And the mainstream movies and tv shows you've been in are...? : >KWuhrer: The best chat room chatter of all time!!! I'd like for people to : >say, "She was fun to watch. She's good!" : Never hear that from me! Ooh, there's a revelation... : >KWuhrer: I'd be scared no one would show up, but I have a hard time : >believing that people actually dig me. It's weird. Believe me, I : >appreciate it. But conventions? Hmm... : Yeah. It's best if you just stayed home. Yeah, but only because the geek quotient is too high. You can only take so many pencil-necks slobbering on you and asking inane questions like: "In episode 18, how many bullets were in your gun? My friend and I have a bet..." : >Wuhrer's latest screen ventures are roles in seven very diverse films. : >Kari is currently in production on Doug Ellins' KISSING A FOOL opposite : >David Schwimmer. She recently finished shooting PHOENIX (Lakeshore : >Entertainment), co-starring Ray Liotta and Angelica Huston and THE IVORY : >TOWER with James Wilder and Patrick Van Horn. Additionally, she will be : >seen in the upcoming SEX AND THE SINGLE MAN with Stanley Tucci and Ron : >Eldard, as well as SAND with Emilio Estevez and Denis Leary and TOUCH ME : >with Amanda Peete and Michael Vartan. The busy actress also just finished : >filming UNDERTAKER'S WEDDING opposite Adrien Brody which was recently : >accepted at the Montreal Film Festival. : Doesn't really look like she's trying to keep her clothes on no matter what : she says. How come you didn't quote where she said she was trying to keep her clothes on? 5 movies coming up...not bad for someone that can't act... Joel -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Joel Mack (whooter@oasis.novia.net) Omaha, NE Home Page: http://www.tconl.com/~jmack The UNOfficial UNO Maverick Hockey Home Page: http://www.tconl.com/~jmack/mavericks/index.htm ----------------------------------------------------------------------

1997-07-30 00:00:00 - Re: Kari AOL Chat Transcript 1/2 - (Joel Mack <whooter@oasis.novia.net>)


Brandy Alexandre <brandy@kamikaze.xxx> wrote: : In article <19970729043601.AAA08954@ladder02.news.aol.com>, puz1@aol.com (Puz1) wrote: : >KWuhrer: I decided to take the role because I was impressed with the : >amount of confidence that the producers of the show seemed to have in me. : >And the character is so 180 degrees from myself, I thought it would be fun : >to give it a try. : They were foold and you blew it!! How does getting re-signed for the next season qualify as "blowing it"? : >KWuhrer: I've worked with actors who give me less than the visual puppets : >they use for the dinosaurs or the snake in Anaconda, so faking it like I : >sometimes have to do is a piece of cake. : Your husband will be hurt when he hears that. ;) *That* was a good one. There may be hope for you yet. : >And most rewarding is meeting the people and hearing about how much they : >like what I'm doing. : I bet she doesn't come to this ng. Probably not. I'm not sure why *I* do, except maybe to tweak you... : >KWuhrer: I needed all the attention I could get. I was very : >self-centered, conceited and needed a stage a second I could get. But : >seriously...Wait, I was serious. (laughs) : Yeah, it shows. She has pretty low self-esteem. Yeah, it takes a lot of self-esteem to hide behind a keyboard and monitor and sling insults at someone more successful than yourself... How come I don't see you shooting flaming barbs at Bill Gates? Joel -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Joel Mack (whooter@oasis.novia.net) Omaha, NE Home Page: http://www.tconl.com/~jmack The UNOfficial UNO Maverick Hockey Home Page: http://www.tconl.com/~jmack/mavericks/index.htm ----------------------------------------------------------------------

1997-07-30 00:00:00 - Re: Kari AOL Chat Transcript 2/2 - (shannen.nospamming@alpha.wcoil.com)


In article <5rm5gp$114_012@primenet.primenet.com> brandy@kamikaze.xxx (Brandy Alexandre) writes: >>KWuhrer: I'd be scared no one would show up, but I have a hard time>>believing that people actually dig me. It's weird. Believe me, I >>appreciate it. But conventions? Hmm... >Yeah. It's best if you just stayed home. Don't worry. The only way I plan bookingt her at the Sliders Con is if we already have everyone and everything else we need/want, and we've got a little bit of money left in the kitty and we don't want to save it for next year. Not saying she *won't* be there, but she's the lowest person on my "Priority Bookings" list, simply because I want this Con to be about what Sliders once was, not the dreck it became in the third season. Shannen--still finding it amusing that Kari has "no idea" when production starts, when I've read it from many sources that it will start in September, after Jerry wraps Scream 2 (well, that'll be in August, but the boy needs a bit of a vacation--he made two movies on his break)

1997-07-31 00:00:00 - SLIDERS Con (WAS: Re: Kari AOL Chat Transcript 2/2) - (chris@magnacom.net)


On 30 Jul 1997 15:55:21 GMT, shannen.nospamming@alpha.wcoil.com (Shannen Bodell) wrote: >In article <5rm5gp$114_012@primenet.primenet.com> brandy@kamikaze.xxx (Brandy >Alexandre) writes: >>>KWuhrer: I'd be scared no one would show up, but I have a >hard time>>believing that people actually dig me. It's weird. Believe me, I >>>appreciate it. But conventions? Hmm... > >>Yeah. It's best if you just stayed home. > >Don't worry. The only way I plan bookingt her at the Sliders Con is if we >already have everyone and everything else we need/want, and we've got a little >bit of money left in the kitty and we don't want to save it for next year. > >Not saying she *won't* be there, but she's the lowest person on my "Priority >Bookings" list, simply because I want this Con to be about what Sliders once >was, not the dreck it became in the third season. > >Shannen--still finding it amusing that Kari has "no idea" when production >starts, when I've read it from many sources that it will start in September, >after Jerry wraps Scream 2 (well, that'll be in August, but the boy needs a >bit of a vacation--he made two movies on his break) Fill the rest of us in on this, Shannen. Enquiring minds want to know more about the convention you're planning. Regards, Podkayne Fries -- Every time you forward spam to Postmaster@host, an angel gets its wings.

1997-07-31 00:00:00 - Re: Kari AOL Chat Transcript 2/2 - (shannen.nospamming@alpha.wcoil.com)


In article <33df5c03.0@newscene> Joel Mack <whooter@oasis.novia.net> writes: >How come you didn't quote where she said she was trying to keep her >clothes on? 5 movies coming up...not bad for someone that can't act... >Joel Well, since you asked, straight from the pages of the NY Daily News: Kari Wuhrer is on a mission. After about 20 movies ��� several of which required nudity ��� the actress plans to take on only respectable projects that will boost her image in Hollywood. "My agent has said, 'Let's not do this, let's clean up your act,' " Wuhrer told The News yesterday. So, she said, it'll be a long time before she takes off her clothes on-screen again. "I made the decision that I'm done with that [nudity]," she said. "I was conned; it gets a little disheartening. The next time I take off my clothes, Robert De Niro is going to be on the screen with me." As far as 5 movies coming up--depends on how big the roles are. And all it really proves is that old saying: Sex Sells. Acting has nothing to do with it. Maybe she can act--I've not seen anything that would make me think she could, and when I asked people if they could give us some examples of films that showed her acting ability, no one offered any. So that either means 1)there are none 2) no one at this group has ever seen her in anything other than Sliders 3)They aren't paying attention to her acting skills in the first place. I'd like to believe it's # 2, myself, but I could be wrong... Shannen

1997-07-31 00:00:00 - Re: Kari AOL Chat Transcript 2/2 - (Joel Mack <whooter@oasis.novia.net>)


Shannen Bodell <shannen.nospamming@alpha.wcoil.com> wrote: <snippage> : As far as 5 movies coming up--depends on how big the roles are. And all it : really proves is that old saying: Sex Sells. Acting has nothing to do with it. : Maybe she can act--I've not seen anything that would make me think she could, : and when I asked people if they could give us some examples of films that : showed her acting ability, no one offered any. So that either means 1)there : are none 2) no one at this group has ever seen her in anything other than : Sliders 3)They aren't paying attention to her acting skills in the first : place. I'd like to believe it's # 2, myself, but I could be wrong... Probably no one has bothered to respond because they believe, like me, that it's subjective. What I may consider good acting, you may not. Who are you to impose your personal standards for "good acting" on the rest of us? I could expound on the job she did in things like "Thinner", or "Higher Learning", etc. but if your standards are different than mine, what's been gained? Nada. If she was really that bad, she wouldn't get jobs. I don't see Pamela Lee scheduled to be in 5 upcoming films, and since (IMO) she couldn't act her way out of a wet paper bag, sex must not ALWAYS sell... Joel -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Joel Mack (whooter@oasis.novia.net) Omaha, NE Home Page: http://www.tconl.com/~jmack The UNOfficial UNO Maverick Hockey Home Page: http://www.tconl.com/~jmack/mavericks/index.htm ----------------------------------------------------------------------

1997-07-31 00:00:00 - Re: SLIDERS Con (WAS: Re: Kari AOL Chat Transcript 2/2) - (shannen.nospamming@alpha.wcoil.com)


In article <33dfdfe8.2097305@news1.ee.net> chris@magnacom.net (Podkayne Fries) writes: >Fill the rest of us in on this, Shannen. Enquiring minds want to >know more about the convention you're planning. Not much to tell right now--we're still in the planning stages. The head of my accomodations committee and I are going to be scouting out what is our first choice in locations sometime soon here (as soon as we can get our schedules coordinated). All I can tell you right now is it will probably be next summer, and as soon as we get the location and dates nailed down, I'll have more info. We also have a mailing list, although it's not up and running right now (because Coollist, the server, is down). But once that comes back up, you can sub to the mailing list by going to this URL: http://www.coollist.com and subbing to the list called sliderscon (make sure you put it in all lower case) And of course, I'm always on the prowl for ConCom slaves..err, volunteers. ;-) Shannen

1997-07-31 00:00:00 - Re: Kari AOL Chat Transcript 2/2 - (zikzak23@I-H8-Spam.com)


Joel Mack <whooter@oasis.novia.net> wrote: >How come you didn't quote where she said she was trying to keep her >clothes on? Maybe because she added that she doesn't regret doing nudity before? Let's face it. Kari did nudity and sex because it was an easy way to get where she is. And now she's realizing that sex only gets you so far and that she'll never be respected that way, and she's trying to re-invent herself. (That's known as Madonna-izing) But she can't expect us all to close our eyes and pretend it didn't happen. And she can't expect the videos to disappear off the shelves. And if she was serious, she shouldn't have done nude photos for an issue of "Femme Fetales" a few months ago. Like how she claimed that her nude photos on the Web are fakes? Not saying that doesn't happen, but I don't buy it. Also like how she immediately knew the exact URLs for her webpages on the Net? >><<>><<>><<>><<>><<>><<>><<>><<>><<>><<>><<>><<>><<>><< zikzak23[at]pipeline[dot]com To reply, replace the "at" and "dot" in the above email address with appropriate symbols. _________________________________________________ *Alternate Webserials - stories of scifi, cartoon comedy, and adventure http://www.pipeline.com/~alterweb/serials.htm *ERP Bridge - dedicated to the scifi TV series, "Sliders" http://www.pipeline.com/~zikzak23/main.htm >><<>><<>><<>><<>><<>><<>><<>><<>><<>><<>><<>><<>><<>><<

1997-07-31 00:00:00 - Re: Kari AOL Chat Transcript 2/2 - (Joel Mack <whooter@oasis.novia.net>)


Brandy Alexandre <brandy@kamikaze.xxx> wrote: : >: >KWuhrer: Yes. And yes. And yes. And yes. But that doesn't stop me from : >: >trying. (laughs) : > : >: Still hasn't come close to attaining it. : > : >And the mainstream movies and tv shows you've been in are...? : That has nothing to do with it. Maybe not, but how does her being in several movies (with 5 more scheduled) and starring in a TV series NOT equate to success? : Sorry, thought I had. At least you confirm for me that she said it. ;) I don't know that she said she was trying to keep her clothes on. If you can't provide the quote, she may or may not be contradicting such a statement... Joel -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Joel Mack (whooter@oasis.novia.net) Omaha, NE Home Page: http://www.tconl.com/~jmack The UNOfficial UNO Maverick Hockey Home Page: http://www.tconl.com/~jmack/mavericks/index.htm ----------------------------------------------------------------------

1997-08-01 00:00:00 - Re: SLIDERS Con (WAS: Re: Kari AOL Chat Transcript 2/2) - (nobody@REPLAY.COM)


Sliders is a joke. Never was good science to begin with. Just another version of the Time Tunnel with a twist. Add in some special effects. Maybe a talking carrot would be a better character than some of the cast now!

1997-08-01 00:00:00 - Re: Kari Transcript (what's with you?) - (Joel Mack <whooter@oasis.novia.net>)


Hackett <hackett@fia.net> wrote: : Yeah, I have noticed this "trend"...though I'm not sure where it stems : from. Just seemed like something to do... : Hide? Sling insults? Who's talkin'? I never claimed to have self-esteem. You over estimate me. : Brandi probably has nothing against Mr. Gates. However, just to satiate : your Id. : "Bill Gates has a bad haircut." Oooooh....Thanks. I can die now. Joel -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Joel Mack (whooter@oasis.novia.net) Omaha, NE Home Page: http://www.tconl.com/~jmack The UNOfficial UNO Maverick Hockey Home Page: http://www.tconl.com/~jmack/mavericks/index.htm ----------------------------------------------------------------------

1997-08-01 00:00:00 - Re: SLIDERS Con (WAS: Re: Kari AOL Chat Transcript 2/2) - (Hackett <hackett@fia.net>)


Anonymous wrote: > > Sliders is a joke. Never was good science to begin with. Just another > version of the Time Tunnel with a twist. Add in some special effects. > Maybe a talking carrot would be a better character than some of the cast > now! What's this dude's problem?

1997-08-01 00:00:00 - Re: Kari AOL Chat Transcript 2/2 - (Joel Mack <whooter@oasis.novia.net>)


Nigel Mitchell <zikzak23@I-H8-Spam.com> wrote: : Maybe because she added that she doesn't regret doing nudity before? : Let's face it. Kari did nudity and sex because it was an easy way to : get where she is. And now she's realizing that sex only gets you so : far and that she'll never be respected that way, and she's trying to : re-invent herself. (That's known as Madonna-izing) But she can't : expect us all to close our eyes and pretend it didn't happen. And she : can't expect the videos to disappear off the shelves. And if she was : serious, she shouldn't have done nude photos for an issue of "Femme : Fetales" a few months ago. Well, God forbid you ever make an error in judgement. Judging by the reactions around here, you'll never get a second chance. I haven't see the photos in "Femme Fatales" (you have a subscription?) so I can't comment. : Like how she claimed that her nude photos on the Web are fakes? Not : saying that doesn't happen, but I don't buy it. Most of the "nude" photos I've seen have been frame-grabs from her movies. The only one that wasn't sure looked fake to me... : Also like how she immediately knew the exact URLs for her webpages on : the Net? a) She was doing an online chat. Either she or her agent/PR person probably prepared for the "do you have any web pages" question. It's called doing your homework, something a lot of people in usenet could take a few lessons in. b) I would imagine that most celebrities keep track of web sites featuring themselves, both from a legal protection standpoint and probably just plain vanity. Regards, Joel -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Joel Mack (whooter@oasis.novia.net) Omaha, NE Home Page: http://www.tconl.com/~jmack The UNOfficial UNO Maverick Hockey Home Page: http://www.tconl.com/~jmack/mavericks/index.htm ----------------------------------------------------------------------

1997-08-01 00:00:00 - Re: Kari AOL Chat Transcript 2/2 - (shannen.nospamming@alpha.wcoil.com)


In article <33e0cf1e.0@newscene> Joel Mack <whooter@oasis.novia.net> writes: >From: Joel Mack <whooter@oasis.novia.net> >Subject: Re: Kari AOL Chat Transcript 2/2 >Date: 31 Jul 97 17:45:02 GMT >Shannen Bodell <shannen.nospamming@alpha.wcoil.com> wrote: ><snippage> >: As far as 5 movies coming up--depends on how big the roles are. And all it >: really proves is that old saying: Sex Sells. Acting has nothing to do with it. >: Maybe she can act--I've not seen anything that would make me think she could, >: and when I asked people if they could give us some examples of films that >: showed her acting ability, no one offered any. So that either means 1)there >: are none 2) no one at this group has ever seen her in anything other than >: Sliders 3)They aren't paying attention to her acting skills in the first >: place. I'd like to believe it's # 2, myself, but I could be wrong... >Probably no one has bothered to respond because they believe, like me, >that it's subjective. What I may consider good acting, you may not. Who >are you to impose your personal standards for "good acting" on the rest of >us? I could expound on the job she did in things like "Thinner", or >"Higher Learning", etc. but if your standards are different than mine, >what's been gained? Nada. If she was really that bad, she wouldn't get >jobs. I don't see Pamela Lee scheduled to be in 5 upcoming films, and >since (IMO) she couldn't act her way out of a wet paper bag, sex must not >ALWAYS sell... Gee--I thought that was the whole reason for opinions--differing standards and the like. I could expound upon Jerry's roles in "Blue River" or "Hole in the Sky"--but I don't expect *you* to think he's a good actor after seeing them. OK--you did accomplish something. Next time I'm looking for a video to rent, I'll check out "Higher Learning"--don't think I want to rent "Thinner" because I heard the movie was bad overall (not a slam at Kari--I just heard it was bad). As far as Pam Lee goes--she doesn't *have* to work, and that's the difference. Even if she never works again, she's done a good enough job marketing herself that people will still know who she is. Sorry, I know you love her, but Kari has not yet achieved that as of yet. If I stopped 10 people on the street and asked them who Pamela Lee is, I'll bet at least 8 of them could tell me. If I asked them whoo Kari Wuhrer is, I'd reduce that number to 2. I'm not saying Kari can't become popular (I've seen stranger things, such as the emergence of John Tesh as a best selling musical artist), but it hasn't happened to her yet--which is why she has to take as many roles as she can. Shannen

1997-08-01 00:00:00 - Re: SLIDERS Con (WAS: Re: Kari AOL Chat Transcript 2/2) - (John Paradox <jpdox@azstarnet.com>)


Hackett wrote: > > Anonymous wrote: > > > > Sliders is a joke. Never was good science to begin with. Just another > > version of the Time Tunnel with a twist. Add in some special effects. > > Maybe a talking carrot would be a better character than some of the cast > > now! > > What's this dude's problem? Cranial/rectal inversion? -- "I am not a number, I am a FREE MAN!" -The Prisoner "You cannot conquor a free man, the most you can do is kill him" -Robert A.Heinlein

1997-08-01 00:00:00 - Re: SLIDERS Con (WAS: Re: Kari AOL Chat Transcript 2/2) - (mtaylor@onlinefraud.com)


In article <5ru44u$1os_006@primenet.primenet.com>, brandy@kamikaze.xxx (Brandy Alexandre) wrote: > In article <33E191BB.200A@fia.net>, hackett@fia.net wrote: > > >Anonymous wrote: > >> > >> Sliders is a joke. Never was good science to begin with. Just another > >> version of the Time Tunnel with a twist. Add in some special effects. > >> Maybe a talking carrot would be a better character than some of the cast > >> now! > > > >What's this dude's problem? > > I would guess that he's clueless about the difference between science and > science fiction. Or fiction of any kind, for that matter. > > Brandy Alexandre > http://kamikaze.org Perhaps. I look at Sliders as science fantasy and nothing more. I look at ST the same way since the science in it is not possible etc. But I still like to watch it though. Babylon 5 has more realistic science. Unfortunately the scripts did take a plunge this last season for Sliders. We can only hope for improvement in the next series. Regretfully my cable system does not carry the Sci Fi channel so I will not be able to see it or whatever becomes of our roving gang. -- Mark Taylor Fraud at fraudnewsletter.com (please remove the at and replace with an @)

1997-08-01 00:00:00 - Re: SLIDERS Con (WAS: Re: Kari AOL Chat Transcript 2/2) - (hrivnak@eyrie.org)


In article <33E191BB.200A@fia.net>, Hackett <hackett@fia.net> wrote: >Anonymous wrote: >> Sliders is a joke. Never was good science to begin with. Just another >> version of the Time Tunnel with a twist. Add in some special effects. >> Maybe a talking carrot would be a better character than some of the cast >> now! > >What's this dude's problem? It's called a troll. Ignore it and it will go away. - Mike, 20 minutes into the future. -- Michael Friedman | "You tried your best, and you failed miserably. Happy to Serve You! | The lesson is: never try." hrivnak@NOeyrieSPAM.org | - Homer Simpson. REMOVE THE "NO SPAM" TO REPLY| HOMEPAGE: http://havoc.gtf.gatech.edu/hrivnak

1997-08-03 00:00:00 - Re: Kari AOL Chat Transcript 2/2 - (cjonesy@ix.netcom.com)


On 1 Aug 97 15:12:21 GMT, Joel Mack <whooter@oasis.novia.net> wrote: >Nigel Mitchell <zikzak23@I-H8-Spam.com> wrote: >: Maybe because she added that she doesn't regret doing nudity before? >: Let's face it. Kari did nudity and sex because it was an easy way to >: get where she is. And now she's realizing that sex only gets you so >: far and that she'll never be respected that way, and she's trying to >: re-invent herself. (That's known as Madonna-izing) But she can't >: expect us all to close our eyes and pretend it didn't happen. And she >: can't expect the videos to disappear off the shelves. And if she was >: serious, she shouldn't have done nude photos for an issue of "Femme >: Fetales" a few months ago. This really cracks me up! First of all Femme Fatales (notice the CORRECT spelling) doesn't generally run ANY original pictures. Almost everything they print is from another source - pictures / vidcaps / movie stills / posters from movies. Secondy, Kari didn't pose for anything for Femme Fatales. Every picture they've ever printed of her was from one of the various movies she's been in - nudity or not. So your statement above is not only untrue but pointless. Thanks for another insightful anti-Kari post. > >Well, God forbid you ever make an error in judgement. Judging by the >reactions around here, you'll never get a second chance. Amen! >I haven't seen the photos in "Femme Fatales" (you have a subscription?) so I can't >comment. > <<SNIP>> >Regards, >Joel

1997-08-03 00:00:00 - Re: Kari AOL Chat Transcript 1/2 - (mcginn@direct.ca)


brandy@kamikaze.xxx (Brandy Alexandre) wrote: >>Question: What prompted you to pursue a career in acting? >> >>KWuhrer: I needed all the attention I could get. I was very >>self-centered, conceited and needed a stage a second I could get. But >>seriously...Wait, I was serious. (laughs) >Yeah, it shows. She has pretty low self-esteem. So true, her obvious low self-esteem shows all the time (no, I'm not talking about the plastic implants either <g>). Of course "needed attention" is the worst of all possible reasons to be an actor, and cases as much bad acting as low self-esteem does. I think you're right that she revealed more than she intended, it's becoming more and more obvious why she's such a pathetically crappy actor. Joe

1997-08-03 00:00:00 - Re: Kari AOL Chat Transcript 2/2 - (mcginn@direct.ca)


Joel Mack <whooter@oasis.novia.net> wrote: >Probably no one has bothered to respond because they believe, like me, >that it's subjective. Nonsense. Anyone who has any acting training can tell you exactly why, in precise detail, Kari's acting stinks. In fact this has been done ad-nauseum already on this ng so I won't go into it again here. You don't even need acting training - just pick up a copy of Stanislovski's "An Actor Prepares". There's nothing whatsoever subjective about what makes good or poor acting. Joe

1997-08-04 00:00:00 - Re: Kari AOL Chat Transcript 2/2 - (Joel Mack <whooter@oasis.novia.net>)


Joe <mcginn@direct.ca> wrote: : Nonsense. Anyone who has any acting training can tell you exactly why, : in precise detail, Kari's acting stinks. In fact this has been done : ad-nauseum already on this ng so I won't go into it again here. You : don't even need acting training - just pick up a copy of : Stanislovski's "An Actor Prepares". There's nothing whatsoever : subjective about what makes good or poor acting. Let me see if I've got this right: Someone who I don't even know has decided what I should think about someone's acting? That, quite possibly, is the largest crock of all the crocks I've read in this newsgroup. Maybe YOU want to live in a world where all of your opinions are decided for you (now, THERE'S an alternate Earth to slide to), but I prefer to form my own, thanks. Joel -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Joel Mack (whooter@oasis.novia.net) Omaha, NE Home Page: http://www.tconl.com/~jmack The UNOfficial UNO Maverick Hockey Home Page: http://www.tconl.com/~jmack/mavericks/index.htm ----------------------------------------------------------------------

1997-08-04 00:00:00 - Re: Kari AOL Chat Transcript 2/2 - (mcginn@direct.ca)


Joel Mack <whooter@oasis.novia.net> wrote: >Let me see if I've got this right: Someone who I don't even know has >decided what I should think about someone's acting? Stanislavski (that "someone you don't know") just happens to be the grand-daddy of all modern acting training and technique. >That, quite possibly, is the largest crock of all the crocks I've read in >this newsgroup. No, your statement above is the biggest crock of shit ever - it's basically like saying that Isaac Asimov didn't know shit about science fiction. >Maybe YOU want to live in a world where all of your opinions are decided >for you (now, THERE'S an alternate Earth to slide to), but I prefer to >form my own, thanks. Hey, if you want to wallow in your own ignorance and pretend there are no objective standards of acting quality just because you are so ignorant of acting techniques and methods, be my guest. Joe

1997-08-05 00:00:00 - Re: Kari AOL Chat Transcript 2/2 - (mcginn@direct.ca)


Joel Mack <whooter@oasis.novia.net> wrote: >It *is* subjective, regardless of how many "experts" you trot out to tell >me how I should feel about someone's acting ability. *You're* the one >that "flew off the handle" and started launching obscenities Completely untrue. >because I >referred to the Great Stanislavski as "someone I don't know", who >incidently, is *still* someone I don't know. Your ignorance is further confirmed with each post. Joe

1997-08-05 00:00:00 - Re: Kari AOL Chat Transcript 2/2 - (mcginn@direct.ca)


jmack@tconl.com (Joel Mack) wrote: >Whoah. Musta touched a raw nerve, there, eh? I didn't say >Stanislavski doesn't "know shit" about acting. I said his tastes were >different than mine. Buy a clue. No, you said acting quality was a subjective judgement, which it is not. I merely pointed out a reference that you could use if you wanted to get some knowledge about acting, a reference to the most renowned source in the acting world. The you flew off the handle in a reflexive rage to religiously defend your ignorance, making it all too clear the scorn you have for learning and knowledge. >If you want to pretend that people can't be free thinkers and form >their own opinions, then you go ahead and be my guest, bucko. ROF,L! Hey, if you want to call your ignorance "free thinking" I guess that's your right. Maybe some day you'll get tired of fooling yourself. Joe

1997-08-05 00:00:00 - Re: Kari AOL Chat Transcript 2/2 - (Joel Mack <whooter@oasis.novia.net>)


Joe <mcginn@direct.ca> wrote: : You consider the word shit "obscene"?? It offends you doesit? And yet : YOU were telling someone to grow a thicker skin the other day? ROF,L! No, I'm not offended by the word "shit". What I am offended by is your apparent need to use it as a crutch in place of a thought-out, reasoned argument. I don't need to use such words to get my point across. But, you go right ahead and use whatever expletives you need to help yourself out... (Try "Fuck" once in awhile. It's shock value is far greater.) : Can't say the same about you I'm afraid, there's prescious little : evidence of intelligent life in your posts C'est la vie, Frenchie. So much for respecting the opposition... Joel -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Joel Mack (whooter@oasis.novia.net) Omaha, NE Home Page: http://www.tconl.com/~jmack The UNOfficial UNO Maverick Hockey Home Page: http://www.tconl.com/~jmack/mavericks/index.htm ----------------------------------------------------------------------

1997-08-05 00:00:00 - Re: Kari AOL Chat Transcript 2/2 - (forge@magicnet.net)


5 movies coming up...not bad for someone that can't act... > > Joel This person has a point - if she were that bad an actress she'd be sitting in the Bad Actor Retirement Home with Jodi Sweetin and Candace Cameron of "Full House," and Macaulay Culkin. She's not really right for this role or the show but hey, she's workin'! People who do their job badly do not continue to get work in the same field.

1997-08-05 00:00:00 - Re: Kari AOL Chat Transcript 2/2 - (jmack@tconl.com)


On Mon, 04 Aug 1997 19:13:08 GMT, mcginn@direct.ca (Joe) wrote: >Stanislavski (that "someone you don't know") just happens to be the >grand-daddy of all modern acting training and technique. Now I'm impressed. >No, your statement above is the biggest crock of shit ever - it's >basically like saying that Isaac Asimov didn't know shit about science >fiction. Whoah. Musta touched a raw nerve, there, eh? I didn't say Stanislavski doesn't "know shit" about acting. I said his tastes were different than mine. Buy a clue. >Hey, if you want to wallow in your own ignorance and pretend there are >no objective standards of acting quality just because you are so >ignorant of acting techniques and methods, be my guest. If you want to pretend that people can't be free thinkers and form their own opinions, then you go ahead and be my guest, bucko. Joel

1997-08-05 00:00:00 - Re: Kari AOL Chat Transcript 2/2 - (Joel Mack <whooter@oasis.novia.net>)


I sent a reply to this via my other newsreader, but it's been acting up lately, and I want to make sure this gets out. Sorry if it's duplicate data... Joe <mcginn@direct.ca> wrote: : Stanislavski (that "someone you don't know") just happens to be the : grand-daddy of all modern acting training and technique. Now I'm impressed. : No, your statement above is the biggest crock of shit ever - it's : basically like saying that Isaac Asimov didn't know shit about science : fiction. Whoah, musta touched a raw nerve, there, eh? I didn't say Stanislavski "doesn't know shit" about acting, I said his tastes are different than mine. Buy a clue. : Hey, if you want to wallow in your own ignorance and pretend there are : no objective standards of acting quality just because you are so : ignorant of acting techniques and methods, be my guest. If you want to pretend that people can't be free thinkers and form their own opinions, then you go ahead and be my guest, bucko. "Hey, you! What kind of food do I like?" Joel -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Joel Mack (whooter@oasis.novia.net) Omaha, NE Home Page: http://www.tconl.com/~jmack The UNOfficial UNO Maverick Hockey Home Page: http://www.tconl.com/~jmack/mavericks/index.htm ----------------------------------------------------------------------

1997-08-11 00:00:00 - Re: Kari AOL Chat Transcript 2/2 - (forge@magicnet.net)


> To me, with my assessment of her acting skills and choice of personal > "enrichment," all that says is she's sexually active. > > > Brandy Alexandre > http://kamikaze.org MRRREEEOWWWWWW, FSSSST!! Also, guffaw.

1997-08-12 00:00:00 - Re: Kari AOL Chat Transcript 2/2 - (forge@magicnet.net)


> >MRRREEEOWWWWWW, FSSSST!! > > > >Also, guffaw. > > You're just jealous because I know more about the inner workings of Hollywood > through first hand experience than you do. If you've wondered why I've never > done legit movies or television it's not because it was never offered... I was not being jealous; I was enjoying your use of irony. In other words, I laughed out loud. Lighten up dahhhhhhling.

1997-08-12 00:00:00 - Re: Kari AOL Chat Transcript 2/2 - (chris@magnacom.net)


On 12 Aug 1997 07:01:00 -0700, brandy@kamikaze.xxx (Brandy Alexandre) wrote: >In article <forge-ya023180001108972106210001@news.magicnet.net>, forge@magicnet.net (John Baker) wrote: > >>> To me, with my assessment of her acting skills and choice of personal >>> "enrichment," all that says is she's sexually active. >>> >>MRRREEEOWWWWWW, FSSSST!! >> >>Also, guffaw. > >You're just jealous because I know more about the inner workings of Hollywood >through first hand experience than you do. John is correct. (BTW - good one, John!) Your remark was catty and a cheap shot. You might not have intended your post to be funny, but I thought it was a hoot. Sour grapes, perhaps? Did Kari get a part that you'd auditioned for? It could also be considered defamation of character, but IANAL. Do you have any proof that Kari has furthered her career via the casting couch? If so, kindly post it. A number of alt.tv.sliders posters are actors, producers, writers and FX wizards, some of whom were involved with SLIDERS. None of them have mentioned anything like this. > If you've wondered why I've never done legit movies or television > it's not because it was never offered... I might have missed a few posts, but I don't remember the question ever coming up. Have you been waiting for someone to ask why you've never been in a legitimate production? It was Brad Ferguson (IIRC) who gave us our ObResponse to Mindless Kari Zombies. Would anyone like to take a stab at an ObResponse to Mindless Kari Bashers? Regards, Podkayne Fries -- Hell hath no Fury like a woman spammed.

1997-08-13 00:00:00 - Re: Kari AOL Chat Transcript 2/2 - (Joel Mack <whooter@oasis.novia.net>)


Brandy Alexandre <brandy@kamikaze.xxx> wrote: : >John is correct. (BTW - good one, John!) Your remark was catty : >and a cheap shot. You might not have intended your post to be : >funny, but I thought it was a hoot. Sour grapes, perhaps? Did : >Kari get a part that you'd auditioned for? : I've never gone out for "real" Hollywood roles because of the casting couch. I was gonna stay out of it, but I just can't help it... So, does this mean every working actress in Hollywood got their jobs by sleeping with someone or just that it's the only way YOU'D be able to get a job? : Think for a minute before you make another similarly stupid remark. WOULD : THEY say so here if she had? Get real! I worked at a studio for three years : amd I know a writer/director who told me in detail what a particular actress : did to get over 75% of her work. The quality of that work is damn close to : the quality of WooWoo's so it's not a stretch to suggest the same goes on. : But you can't argue this point since the closest you've been to Hollywood is a : map to stars' homes. It would probably help if every post of yours wasn't a "holier-than-thou" brag-fest about how well you know the inner workings of Hollywood. It strains what little credibility you have left. Since you haven't done any "mainstream" work, I would assume that the studio you worked for was involved in the adult industry, where I would expect that actresses would employ whatever means necessary to secure a part. Big deal. Whether you intend it or not, every one of these diatribes of yours looks like "sour grapes" to the average viewer... Regards, Joel -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Joel Mack (whooter@oasis.novia.net) Omaha, NE Home Page: http://www.tconl.com/~jmack The UNOfficial UNO Maverick Hockey Home Page: http://www.tconl.com/~jmack/mavericks/index.htm ----------------------------------------------------------------------

1997-08-14 00:00:00 - Re: Kari AOL Chat Transcript 2/2 - (forge@magicnet.net)


> Well, let's hope I can clear that up. I've had my fill of Hollywood. I quite > the studio and did porn. Not because I couldn't make it as an actress -- I > never even tried. My aspirations always were and still are to the crew side. Hmm, well, I suppose I may have spoken in haste

1997-08-14 00:00:00 - Re: Kari AOL Chat Transcript 2/2 - (forge@magicnet.net)


> It would probably help if every post of yours wasn't a "holier-than-thou" brag-fest > about how well you know the inner workings of Hollywood. It strains what little > credibility you have left. I wasn't gonna say anything, but I gotta agree with him. Although I've enjoyed her continuing commentary, increasingly my attitude toward Brandy has become, "so what?"

1997-08-14 00:00:00 - Re: Kari AOL Chat Transcript 2/2 - (forge@magicnet.net)


> Jobs on both sides of the camera are extremely hard to get, and porn and my > crew aspirations are in no way related. In hindsight, however, I produced > several videos and organized the shoots myself, so I guess I have a great deal > of experience in low-budget video. ...which is nothing to sneeze at; low-budget video is starting to become marketable, what with all the local "film" festivals popping up around the country.

1997-08-15 00:00:00 - Re: Kari AOL Chat Transcript 2/2 - (hrivnak@eyrie.org)


In article <5sv3r4$3co_004@primenet.primenet.com>, Brandy Alexandre <brandy@kamikaze.xxx> wrote: >Jobs on both sides of the camera are extremely hard to get, and porn and my >crew aspirations are in no way related. In hindsight, however, I produced >several videos and organized the shoots myself, so I guess I have a great deal >of experience in low-budget video. Yeah, and you've written such great classics as: Best Butt(e) in the West Blowing in Style Cheeks 5: Cop A Feel Whatever. -- Michael D. Friedman | "You tried your best, and you failed miserably. PROUD *PITT* ALUMNUS | The lesson is: never try." - Homer Simpson. hrivnak@eyrie.org | HOMEPAGE: http://havoc.gtf.gatech.edu/hrivnak

1997-08-15 00:00:00 - Re: Kari AOL Chat Transcript 2/2 - (mtaylor@onlinefraud.com)


In article <5t3bvu$23s_002@primenet.primenet.com>, brandy@kamikaze.xxx (Brandy Alexandre) wrote: > >Yeah, and you've written such great classics as: > > > >Best Butt(e) in the West > >Blowing in Style > >Cheeks 5: Cop A Feel > > And you can do low-budget flames. Whatever. And they are good movies! Does not matter whether it is low or high budget. Quality is the key. -- Mark Taylor Fraud at fraudnewsletter.com (please remove the at and replace with an @)