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1996-10-08 00:00:00 - Re: "THE GUARDIAN": THE BEST EPISODE EVER!!!! - (Rich Humphreys <ratboy@gte.net>)


Shannon T. Nutt wrote: > The episode had some of the best Quinn/Arturo dialogue we have seen in any > episode. There can be no doubt now that the "good" Arturo slid at the end > of last season's "Post Traumatic Slide Syndrome", because the "evil" Arturo > would never say these things to Quinn. I still have doubts: a) I believe that there was no good or evil Arturo. I believe that having to put your life in someone else's hands, and the realization that those people would die for you would change a person. Perhaps the EarthPrime Arturo was the evil one? He originally jumped because he was hungrier for the sliding technology that the Earth Almost-Prime. Anyone who can't buy this as a possibility has a very black-and-white view of good and evil. b) Expanding on that... the Arturo that is dying could be the Earth Almost-Prime Arturo (I will not call him evil)... and the "real" Arturo is still alive. It would make a great deathbed story. If they use it as a tool to bring in the original Arturo, it had better be damn convincing. I won't buy chance. On the other hand... End of the series... sliders get home... find Arturo already perfected the technology and was there waiting! ratboy

1996-10-12 00:00:00 - "THE GUARDIAN": THE BEST EPISODE EVER!!!! - ("Shannon T. Nutt" <shannon9@greenepa.net>)


S P O I L E R S P A C E Anyone who claims to be a true fan of SLIDERS who didn't like "The Guardian" doesn't know what this show should be all about. Here we have an episode with hardly any special effects, little scientific theory thrown around (just a little expaination of why it is 1984 and not 1996), and what do we get??? The best episode I have seen so far!!! The episode had some of the best Quinn/Arturo dialogue we have seen in any episode. There can be no doubt now that the "good" Arturo slid at the end of last season's "Post Traumatic Slide Syndrome", because the "evil" Arturo would never say these things to Quinn. Arturo will apparantly be spending the next few months of the show facing his mortality, and that should set up some great episodes. Those fans worried that John Ryhes Davies is leaving the show shouldn't be: he's signed for a full season. So the Professor will be cured, but how and when will be interesting to watch. Finally, let's give credit where credit is due. Tracy Torme wrote a fantastic episode, and Adam Nimoy did a fantastic job directing! If I recall, the last time we saw this writer/director combo was on "Post Traumatic Slide Syndrome", so when these two get together, great things happen on the show! shannon9@greenepa.net

1996-10-13 00:00:00 - Cheers to Torme and Nimoy - (Marc Rosson <rossonm@ix.netcom.com>)


Shannon T. Nutt wrote: > > S > P > O > I > L > E > R > > S > P > A > C > E > > Anyone who claims to be a true fan of SLIDERS who didn't like "The > Guardian" doesn't know what this show should be all about. Here we have an > episode with hardly any special effects, little scientific theory thrown > around (just a little expaination of why it is 1984 and not 1996), and what > do we get??? The best episode I have seen so far!!! > The episode had some of the best Quinn/Arturo dialogue we have seen in any > episode. There can be no doubt now that the "good" Arturo slid at the end > of last season's "Post Traumatic Slide Syndrome", because the "evil" Arturo > would never say these things to Quinn. > Arturo will apparantly be spending the next few months of the show facing > his mortality, and that should set up some great episodes. Those fans > worried that John Ryhes Davies is leaving the show shouldn't be: he's > signed for a full season. So the Professor will be cured, but how and when > will be interesting to watch. > Finally, let's give credit where credit is due. Tracy Torme wrote a > fantastic episode, and Adam Nimoy did a fantastic job directing! If I > recall, the last time we saw this writer/director combo was on "Post > Traumatic Slide Syndrome", so when these two get together, great things > happen on the show! > > shannon9@greenepa.net WONDERFUL!!! I agree, this was the best, the greatest episode yet! Tracy should get a Hugo. Well written, original, great twists and turns in the plot which make it that much better. The sub-plots were as good as the main story line. The chance to kiss that teacher you had a crush on in school. The great twist on Quinn's motives for teaching little Quinn to fight. Quinn telling of his name at the end of the episode. Tracy has done a great job. She knows what the true Sliders audience wants and she delivers. In addition, the acting/direction in the episode was superlative. With a great script and the director who can convey the vision, the actors have a chance to expand themselves. Jerry O'Connell, what can you say, but Wow!. The emotion he cares when he sees himself being hit and Arturo holding him back. Just great. I'm sending a letter to Fox/Universal to tell them how good this was. I encourage others to do the same.

1996-10-13 00:00:00 - Re: Cheers to Torme and Nimoy - (gbobkiew@gpu5.srv.ualberta.ca)


Marc Rosson (rossonm@ix.netcom.com) wrote: : at the end of the episode. Tracy has done a great job. She knows what : the : true Sliders audience wants and she delivers. I hate to be anally nitpicky about this, but isn't Tracy Torme' a guy?

1996-10-13 00:00:00 - Re: "THE GUARDIAN": THE BEST EPISODE EVER!!!! - (aw267@FreeNet.Carleton.CA)


"Shannon T. Nutt" (shannon9@greenepa.net) writes: > S > P > O > I > L > E > R > > > Anyone who claims to be a true fan of SLIDERS who didn't like "The > Guardian" doesn't know what this show should be all about. Here we have an > episode with hardly any special effects, little scientific theory thrown > around (just a little expaination of why it is 1984 and not 1996), and what > do we get??? The best episode I have seen so far!!! Agreed!! This episode was awesome! I have been waiting almost TWO YEARS for a great episode like this one! I've seen the light! Sliders has redeemed itself!! I am a Slide-Again!!! :-) Greg

1996-10-14 00:00:00 - Re: Cheers to Torme and Nimoy - (sliderman@aol.com)


Thank you for your kind remarks about Tracy Torme. However, he is a man.

1996-10-14 00:00:00 - Re: "THE GUARDIAN": THE BEST EPISODE EVER!!!! - (Jason French <jfrench@eden.com>)


Shannon T. Nutt <shannon9@greenepa.net> wrote in article <01bbb850$d14253a0$7676cdce@default>... > Anyone who claims to be a true fan of SLIDERS who didn't like "The > Guardian" doesn't know what this show should be all about. Here we have an > episode with hardly any special effects, little scientific theory thrown > around (just a little expaination of why it is 1984 and not 1996), and what > do we get??? The best episode I have seen so far!!! > The episode had some of the best Quinn/Arturo dialogue we have seen in any > episode. There can be no doubt now that the "good" Arturo slid at the end > of last season's "Post Traumatic Slide Syndrome", because the "evil" Arturo > would never say these things to Quinn. > Arturo will apparantly be spending the next few months of the show facing > his mortality, and that should set up some great episodes. Those fans > worried that John Ryhes Davies is leaving the show shouldn't be: he's > signed for a full season. So the Professor will be cured, but how and when > will be interesting to watch. > Finally, let's give credit where credit is due. Tracy Torme wrote a > fantastic episode, and Adam Nimoy did a fantastic job directing! If I > recall, the last time we saw this writer/director combo was on "Post > Traumatic Slide Syndrome", so when these two get together, great things > happen on the show! > I will also agree with you. This was by far one of the best episodes of the series. The writing by Tracy Torm� not to mention the acting by Jerry O'Connell was excellent. It reminded me of a Quantum Leap episode and perhaps that was why it was so good. From beginning to end the episode was superb with characters you could identify with. Hopefully they will keep up the good work... Jason French jfrench@eden.com

1996-10-14 00:00:00 - Re: "THE GUARDIAN": THE BEST EPISODE EVER!!!! - (ugkranger6@aol.com)


You might want to be somewhat worried. Although John has signed for the full third season, he has not signed for the fourth yet. He stated in the episode how he had "A Month, but maybe a year". The Third season will end in less then a year, but the forth will not start for at least a year so if he does not resign for next season, I fear they might write him off just incase he decides not to sign during the off season. I think this is in case he dont want to work with Sliders anymore they have a way out of his character. Of course, I could be wrong and I hope I am. :) Keep Sliding... -Mike

1996-10-14 00:00:00 - Re: Cheers to Torme and Nimoy - (danbenj@eden.rutgers.edu)


Marc Rosson <rossonm@ix.netcom.com> writes: >at the end of the episode. Tracy has done a great job. She knows what >the >true Sliders audience wants and she delivers. Just want to point out that Tracy Torme is a guy, the son of Mel Torme. And yes, he did a very good job with this episode. >I'm sending a letter to Fox/Universal to tell them how good this was. I >encourage others to do the same. While we're at it, send a letter telling them to dump Scott Smith Miller from the writing team. He may have done well with his first effort, "Eggheads", the first season, but all his recent scripts ("The Good, the Bad, and the Wealthy", "Greatfellas", "Electric Twister Acid Test") have been rather poor. They're in the bottom 5 episodes on my list. Think of your least favorite episodes -- I guarantee he wrote at least one of them.

1996-10-15 00:00:00 - Re: Cheers to Torme and Nimoy - (arphaxad@cyberspc.mb.ca)


Marc Rosson <rossonm@ix.netcom.com> wrote: >The chance to kiss that teacher you had a crush on in school. The great >twist on Quinn's motives for teaching little Quinn to fight. Quinn >telling of his name >at the end of the episode. Tracy has done a great job. She knows what >the >true Sliders audience wants and she delivers. This has caused a bit of confusion before--Tracy Torm��� is a *he*, and also the son of Mel Torm���. (He must've *loved* blowing his dad up last season! :)) He used to work on ST:TNG, writing some of the early episodes like "The Big Goodbye" and so on. Just letting everyone know, in case you didn't already, that Tracy is a guy. However, I *do* agree that he knows what he's doing. :) Edgar Governo

1996-10-21 00:00:00 - Re: Cheers to Torme and Nimoy - ("Scott A. Carman" <scott@nci.com>)


Please be aware that Tracy Torme is a pen name for male writer. His name escapes me right now but he worked on several ST:TNG episodes. According to the ST book I have he would use such a psudoname when there were rewrites to the script he found unacceptable. Marc Rosson <rossonm@ix.netcom.com> wrote in article <3261337C.B8C@ix.netcom.com>... > Shannon T. Nutt wrote: > > > > S > > P > > O > > I > > L > > E > > R > > > > S > > P > > A > > C > > E > > > > Anyone who claims to be a true fan of SLIDERS who didn't like "The > > Guardian" doesn't know what this show should be all about. Here we have an > > episode with hardly any special effects, little scientific theory thrown > > around (just a little expaination of why it is 1984 and not 1996), and what > > do we get??? The best episode I have seen so far!!! > > The episode had some of the best Quinn/Arturo dialogue we have seen in any > > episode. There can be no doubt now that the "good" Arturo slid at the end > > of last season's "Post Traumatic Slide Syndrome", because the "evil" Arturo > > would never say these things to Quinn. > > Arturo will apparantly be spending the next few months of the show facing > > his mortality, and that should set up some great episodes. Those fans > > worried that John Ryhes Davies is leaving the show shouldn't be: he's > > signed for a full season. So the Professor will be cured, but how and when > > will be interesting to watch. > > Finally, let's give credit where credit is due. Tracy Torme wrote a > > fantastic episode, and Adam Nimoy did a fantastic job directing! If I > > recall, the last time we saw this writer/director combo was on "Post > > Traumatic Slide Syndrome", so when these two get together, great things > > happen on the show! > > > > shannon9@greenepa.net

1996-10-22 00:00:00 - Re: Cheers to Torme and Nimoy - (gharlane@ccshp1.ccs.csus.edu)


In <01bbbf6f$0825f140$180000c8@pc100> "Scott A. Carman" <scott@nci.com> writes: > > Please be aware that Tracy Torme is a pen name for male writer. His name > escapes me right now but he worked on several ST:TNG episodes. According > to the ST book I have he would use such a psudoname when there were > rewrites to the script he found unacceptable. > You might want to learn a new word, "pseudonym," to use in place of the contextually-decodable term you have invented above. As for your breathless announcment....... We were already aware of this. After all, what kind of a name is "Tracy Torme?" It's as blatantly phony as "Frederick Schiller Faust," or "Leslie Charteris," or perhaps "Stirling Silliphant;" although, of course, the writer using the name "Torme" doesn't necessarily fit among that august an assemblage...... Look on the bright side, at least the Unknown Writer didn't choose to use a name as unimaginatively demonstrative as "Guerdon Trueblood," or "Cordwainer Bird," or "Judas Booth," or "Theseus Skrudmi."

1996-10-23 00:00:00 - Re: Cheers to Torme and Nimoy - (davopaul@cin.net)




1996-10-23 00:00:00 - Re: Cheers to Torme and Nimoy - (gharlane@ccshp1.ccs.csus.edu)




1996-10-23 00:00:00 - Re: Cheers to Torme and Nimoy - ("Shannon T. Nutt" <shannon9@greenepa.net>)


Scott A. Carman <scott@nci.com> wrote in article <01bbbf6f$0825f140$180000c8@pc100>... > Please be aware that Tracy Torme is a pen name for male writer. His name > escapes me right now but he worked on several ST:TNG episodes. According to > the ST book I have he would use such a psudoname when there were rewrites > to the script he found unacceptable. Tracy Torme is NOT a pen name, it is the actual name of the creator of SLIDERS. Yes, Tracy is his name, and yes he is a guy! He is the son of the famous Mel Torme, who guest starred in one SLIDERS show last year. > > Marc Rosson <rossonm@ix.netcom.com> wrote in article > <3261337C.B8C@ix.netcom.com>... > > Shannon T. Nutt wrote: > > > > > > S > > > P > > > O > > > I > > > L > > > E > > > R > > > > > > S > > > P > > > A > > > C > > > E > > > > > > Anyone who claims to be a true fan of SLIDERS who didn't like "The > > > Guardian" doesn't know what this show should be all about. Here we > have an > > > episode with hardly any special effects, little scientific theory > thrown > > > around (just a little expaination of why it is 1984 and not 1996), and > what > > > do we get??? The best episode I have seen so far!!! > > > The episode had some of the best Quinn/Arturo dialogue we have seen in > any > > > episode. There can be no doubt now that the "good" Arturo slid at the > end > > > of last season's "Post Traumatic Slide Syndrome", because the "evil" > Arturo > > > would never say these things to Quinn. > > > Arturo will apparantly be spending the next few months of the show > facing > > > his mortality, and that should set up some great episodes. Those fans > > > worried that John Ryhes Davies is leaving the show shouldn't be: he's > > > signed for a full season. So the Professor will be cured, but how and > when > > > will be interesting to watch. > > > Finally, let's give credit where credit is due. Tracy Torme wrote a > > > fantastic episode, and Adam Nimoy did a fantastic job directing! If I > > > recall, the last time we saw this writer/director combo was on "Post > > > Traumatic Slide Syndrome", so when these two get together, great things > > > happen on the show! > > > > > > shannon9@greenepa.net > >

1996-10-23 00:00:00 - Re: Cheers to Torme and Nimoy - (Chaim.Yankel@505.sasbbs.com)


"C> From: "Scott A. Carman" <scott@nci.com> Date: 21 Oct 1996 16:39:14 GMT "C> Please be aware that Tracy Torme is a pen name for male writer. His name "C> escapes me right now but he worked on several ST:TNG episodes. According to "C> the ST book I have he would use such a psudoname when there were rewrites "C> to the script he found unacceptable. Nope, it is NOT a pen name ... Tracy Torme IS his name -- he is the son of "The Velvet Fog" ... Mel Torme, the legendary scat & jazz singer/composer (Mel wrote the Christmas classic, The Christmas Song "chestnuts roasting on an open fire..."). Tracy's creative juices are utilized as a writer, etc. -- But, remember this... Tracy Torme is his real name, and Tracy is a guy (45 or 50 years old) ... We now return to our regularly scheduled Slide ... ;-) ___ Shofar BBS ___ 714-838-3837 ___ Sliders: The QUINN-essential Sci-Fi! ___ -- |Fidonet: Chaim Yankel 1:103/505 |Internet: Chaim.Yankel@505.sasbbs.com | | Standard disclaimer: The views here are the user's own.

1996-10-23 00:00:00 - Re: Cheers to Torme and Nimoy - (mleckste@epix.net)


On Fri, 25 Oct 1996 21:28:20 GMT, chesler@world.std.com (David S Chesler) wrote: >In article <54hdd2$hvd@news.csus.edu>, >Gharlane of Eddore <gharlane@ccshp1.ccs.csus.edu> wrote: >>In <01bbbf6f$0825f140$180000c8@pc100> "Scott A. Carman" <scott@nci.com> writes: >>> >>> Please be aware that Tracy Torme is a pen name for male writer. His name >> >>You might want to learn a new word, "pseudonym," to use in place of >>the contextually-decodable term you have invented above. > > Now, now, Gharlane, "pen name" (or if one wishes to affect :-) "nom >de plume") is a perfectly reasonale usage. >> >>As for your breathless announcment....... >> >>We were already aware of this. After all, what kind of a name is >>"Tracy Torme?" > > I thought he took that name to honor singer Mel Torme. > > "Archibald Leach -- what kind of name is that?" >-- >David Chesler (chesler@world.std.net - ISP > david.chesler@itcambridge.com - WORK david@absol.com - DURABLE ADDRESS) >"Please save my rabbit from the tyranny of hierarchical money grubbing evil" >(Camb Food Co-op-ese for offering free rabbit to a good home [617-625-2645]) Ummm... I'm pretty sure that Tracy Torme is Mel Torme's son..... Remember, Mel Torme was even in an episode of the show last season..... -=Marc=-

1996-10-24 00:00:00 - Re: Cheers to Torme and Nimoy - (Smokedham@42.gigo.com)


sc> Please be aware that Tracy Torme is a pen name for male writer. His sc> name sc> escapes me right now but he worked on several ST:TNG episodes. sc> According to sc> the ST book I have he would use such a psudoname when there were sc> rewrites sc> to the script he found unacceptable. Actually that IS his real name. Tracy Torme is the son of singer Mel Torme, who has guest-starred on Sliders. He has also written for SCTV and Saturday Night Live. -Robert J. Butler -- : Fidonet: Smokedham 1:203/42 .. speaking for only myself. : Internet: Smokedham@42.gigo.com

1996-10-25 00:00:00 - Re: Cheers to Torme and Nimoy - (chesler@world.std.com)


In article <54hdd2$hvd@news.csus.edu>, Gharlane of Eddore <gharlane@ccshp1.ccs.csus.edu> wrote: >In <01bbbf6f$0825f140$180000c8@pc100> "Scott A. Carman" <scott@nci.com> writes: >> >> Please be aware that Tracy Torme is a pen name for male writer. His name > >You might want to learn a new word, "pseudonym," to use in place of >the contextually-decodable term you have invented above. Now, now, Gharlane, "pen name" (or if one wishes to affect :-) "nom de plume") is a perfectly reasonale usage. > >As for your breathless announcment....... > >We were already aware of this. After all, what kind of a name is >"Tracy Torme?" I thought he took that name to honor singer Mel Torme. "Archibald Leach -- what kind of name is that?" -- David Chesler (chesler@world.std.net - ISP david.chesler@itcambridge.com - WORK david@absol.com - DURABLE ADDRESS) "Please save my rabbit from the tyranny of hierarchical money grubbing evil" (Camb Food Co-op-ese for offering free rabbit to a good home [617-625-2645])

1996-10-25 00:00:00 - Re: Cheers to Torme and Nimoy - (chesler@world.std.com)


In article <54m81n$1be@news.csus.edu>, Gharlane of Eddore <gharlane@ccshp1.ccs.csus.edu> wrote: >Now, now, now..... you were *supposed* to reference the "NIGHT COURT" >episode where Mel Torme refers to a picture of a knockout chick as >"...My daughter, Tracy." "Night Court" is not part of the canon. -- David Chesler (chesler@world.std.net - ISP david.chesler@itcambridge.com - WORK david@absol.com - DURABLE ADDRESS) "Please save my rabbit from the tyranny of hierarchical money grubbing evil" (Camb Food Co-op-ese for offering free rabbit to a good home [617-625-2645])

1996-10-26 00:00:00 - Re: Cheers to Torme and Nimoy - (gharlane@ccshp1.ccs.csus.edu)


In <Dzuoz8.JA3@world.std.com> chesler@world.std.com (David S Chesler) writes: > > "Archibald Leach -- what kind of name is that?" > It's the name of the actor who starred in "SOUTH BY SOUTHWEST," a wonderful suspense movie that "Win" Bear watches in the car, in one scene in L. Neil Smith's "THE PROBABILITY BROACH." I'm not sure whether Eva Marie Saint played the analogue role in the production on that timeline; but it's a matter of record that L. George Carroll played the Spymaster, and that Archie Leach turned in his usual excellent performance, his best since "TO CATCH A THIEF."

1996-10-26 00:00:00 - Re: Cheers to Torme and Nimoy - (gharlane@ccshp1.ccs.csus.edu)


In <28d_9610241920@sasbbs.com> Chaim.Yankel@505.sasbbs.com (Chaim Yankel) writes: > > Nope, it is NOT a pen name ... Tracy Torme IS his name -- he is the son > of "The Velvet Fog" ... Mel Torme, the legendary scat & jazz singer/composer > (Mel wrote the Christmas classic, The Christmas Song "chestnuts roasting on > an open fire..."). Tracy's creative juices are utilized as a writer, etc. > -- But, remember this... Tracy Torme is his real name, and Tracy is a guy > (45 or 50 years old) ... We now return to our regularly scheduled Slide ... > ;-) > You're fairly close on most of that, but Tracy is a bit more callow of a youth than you think. Were he as seasoned as your guess anent his age would imply, he might have been more open-minded about getting the technical and historical advising he sorely needed to make the show something that could be watched without pain; as it is, he's still in the young-warrior stage, psychologically speaking, and thinks he can do things by himself. He'll be fine with another decade or two of ripening, and hopefully a bit of education. In the meantime, don't age him prematurely..... By the way, the official title of the "chestnuts" song is "THE CHRISTMAS SONG," if memory serves.

1996-10-27 00:00:00 - Re: Cheers to Torme and Nimoy - (arphaxad@cyberspc.mb.ca)


chesler@world.std.com (David S Chesler) wrote: >>As for your breathless announcment....... >> >>We were already aware of this. After all, what kind of a name is >>"Tracy Torme?" > I thought he took that name to honor singer Mel Torme. For the last time, TRACY TORM��� IS HIS REAL NAME. *He* is the son of singer Mel Torm���. A&E had a biography of the Velvet Fog on last night, and *Tracy was talking about his father* on it. Now, Tracy *has* used pseudonyms in the past, most notably on one or two ST:TNG episodes, but "Tracy Torm���" is not the pen name in question. That is his real name...after all, don't you think most writers would take the opportunity to blow up their fathers ("Greatfellas") if they could? :) I hope this settles things once and for all. Edgar Governo

1996-10-30 00:00:00 - Re: Cheers to Torme and Nimoy - (chesler@world.std.com)


In article <54tf86$lcj@news.csus.edu>, Gharlane of Eddore <gharlane@ccshp1.ccs.csus.edu> wrote: >In <Dzuoz8.JA3@world.std.com> chesler@world.std.com (David S Chesler) writes: >> >> "Archibald Leach -- what kind of name is that?" > >It's the name of the actor who starred in "SOUTH BY SOUTHWEST," a >wonderful suspense movie that "Win" Bear watches in the car, in >one scene in L. Neil Smith's "THE PROBABILITY BROACH." The above quoted line is also spoken in the analog of that movie in our own time-line, by the actor who was in fact given that name at birth. (And in some other movie, doesn't he have a dog by that name? Or was that in real life?) -- David Chesler (chesler@world.std.net - ISP david.chesler@itcambridge.com - WORK david@absol.com - DURABLE ADDRESS) "Please save my rabbit from the tyranny of hierarchical money grubbing evil" (Camb Food Co-op-ese for offering free rabbit to a good home [617-625-2645])