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1996-08-16 00:00:00 - Timer/Sliding Machine Question - (leeb@ben.dev.upenn.edu)


I have a question that i'm sure has been discussed before, however I have never seen the answer posted. I remember in the pilot episode Quinn had all this huge sliding machinery which I assumed served the purpose of opening/generating the gate, while the timer actually told when the gate would be ready to open. However now, the timer seems to be a do all device, opening gates as well as predicting them. If this is the case, what purpose did the equipment in Quinn's basement serve? If it did serve a purpose, how was that affected by the FBI's discovery of it? If any of these questions were answered in the show I beg forgiveness. A tough erratic schedule often prevents from being home on Fri. nights. -Ben

1996-08-17 00:00:00 - Re: Timer/Sliding Machine Question - (zikzak23@usa.pipeline.com)


On Aug 16, 1996 18:28:01 in article <Timer/Sliding Machine Question>, 'leeb@ben.dev.upenn.edu (Benjamin Lee)' wrote: >However now, the timer seems to be a do all device, opening gates as well >as predicting them. If this is the case, what purpose did the equipment >in Quinn's basement serve? If it did serve a purpose, how was that >affected by the FBI's discovery of it? As far as I can tell, the timer is a remote control. It tells the machine back home where to open the wormhole. It also is connected to the sliding machine, which analyzes and predicts when the next window of opportuniy will occur. The sliding machine back home is still important, since it actually runs everything. As for the FBI, who knows? Unofficially, Tracy Torme said the FBI is paying the electric bills to keep the equipment running, but hopefully we'll see more of them in the future. :)

1996-08-19 00:00:00 - Re: Timer/Sliding Machine Question - ("Stephen C. Gallagher" <stephen.gallagher@istar.ca>)


>As far as I can tell, the timer is a remote control. It tells the machine >back home where to open the wormhole. It also is connected to the sliding >machine, which analyzes and predicts when the next window of opportuniy >will occur. The sliding machine back home is still important, since it >actually runs everything. As for the FBI, who knows? Unofficially, Tracy >Torme said the FBI is paying the electric bills to keep the equipment >running, but hopefully we'll see more of them in the future. So does that mean that if Quinn's mother back on Earth Prime went downstair to the basement and damaged or disassembled or pulled the plug on the sliding machine, that they'd be trapped on whatever world they happened to be on?

1996-08-20 00:00:00 - Re: Timer/Sliding Machine Question - (zikzak23@usa.pipeline.com)


On Aug 19, 1996 16:14:55 in article <Re: Timer/Sliding Machine Question>, '"Stephen C. Gallagher" <stephen.gallagher@istar.ca>' wrote: >So does that mean that if Quinn's mother back on Earth Prime went >downstair to the basement and damaged or disassembled or pulled the >plug on the sliding machine, that they'd be trapped on whatever >world they happened to be on? Probably. Might make a good story. :) -- **************************************************** Thought for the Week: If Barbie is so popular, why do you have to buy all her friends? **************************************************

1996-08-21 00:00:00 - Re: Timer/Sliding Machine Question - (Lynn <ennui@ix.netcom.com>)


In article <4vg86k$fr0@news.ysu.edu>, am856@yfn.ysu.edu (Michael DeCosta III) wrote: > >Paying the electric bills not withstanding, the fact is that if sliding >machine in the basement is depending on the Electric Utility for power, >then it must have experienced several power outages since the group's >first slide. Ergo, continual power must not be THAT important. > >However, eventually chance will come into play and they will need to slide >at a time when there is no power back home and then they will be forced >to either stay or make a new sliding aparatus on the world that they >get "stuck" on. >-- > This may be a duplicate, but I think I accidently dumped my original reply. What I said before I spaced, was that this is a good point, Michael. One healthy, fairly strong earthquake could put the elec out for several hours to several days. If the timer gave them ten hours to slide, and then there was a quake on Earth prime, would the slide be delayed? That would shake them up a bit, wouldn't it? I won't repeat my original comment about the 9v backup battery. :-) Lynn

1996-08-22 00:00:00 - Re: Timer/Sliding Machine Question - (am856@yfn.ysu.edu)


Paying the electric bills not withstanding, the fact is that if sliding machine in the basement is depending on the Electric Utility for power, then it must have experienced several power outages since the group's first slide. Ergo, continual power must not be THAT important. However, eventually chance will come into play and they will need to slide at a time when there is no power back home and then they will be forced to either stay or make a new sliding aparatus on the world that they get "stuck" on. --

1996-08-24 00:00:00 - Re: Timer/Sliding Machine Question - (Carlino Family <jcarlino@ix.netcom.com>)


As explained in SUMMER OF LOVE THE LOST SCENE the timer, they call it the gizmo, is damage and can only open the portal at a specific time; I quote: " QUINN It's badly damaged. We can't open the gate at will anymore. So the Professor and I did some calculating based on The Helix Spiral -- REMBRANDT -- Felix who? QUINN _Helix_. It's a ten dimensional form of Witten's index theorem. REMBRANDT Oh. That. QUINN It suggests there will be a single window of opportunity on each Earth we visit. A moment in time when the weakened powers of the gizmo will still allow us to access the gate. ARTURO The window he's referring to will be different on each Earth - mere minutes till it arrives on some, several months on others. REMBRANDT So you're saying we may have to wait _months_ on some of these worlds before we can try and get home again? ARTURO Correct. We've re-rigged the timer to serve as a countdown device, telling us how long till the window on each Earth we visit. REMBRANDT What if the window comes and goes and we never access the gate? ARTURO I'm afraid it's 29.7 years to the next opportunity. So that's a mistake we can not afford. We must always be sure to be together at the appointed time... or else. " I would suspect that the equipment in Quinn's basement opened the original portal-- with the device as a remote control. The initial slide set up wave effect based upon the "ten dimensional form of Witten's index theorem" which will cause two extra-dimensional events when the actual opening between worlds can manifests itself (time itself being a variable in the equation) so that both the portal the sliders slide in on and the one that they slide out on are really caused by the same wave. The gist of this is that the equipment in Quinn's basement is basically no longer needed. It doesn't matter if it's off or on.

1996-08-24 00:00:00 - Re: Timer/Sliding Machine Question - (Kusader <kusader@aol.com>)


Yeah, that's a good idea. Imagine a world where the power goes out on Earth Prime, and the Sliders have to construct a new sliding machine to get them off that Earth. There'd have to be some kind of problem, though... -- THREE TAGLINES: I could do that but I don't wanna. Did anyone see a fat, bald, naked Tibetan man run through here with my tagline? If life gives you lemons, squirt the juice into other people's eyes.

1996-08-26 00:00:00 - Re: Timer/Sliding Machine Question - (schapel@cs.ucsb.edu)


Kusader <kusader@aol.com> writes: >Yeah, that's a good idea. Imagine a world where the power goes out on >Earth Prime, and the Sliders have to construct a new sliding machine to >get them off that Earth. There'd have to be some kind of problem, >though... That's what bothers me about the so-called 29.97 year rule -- if they miss the window of opportunity for sliding, what's to prevent them from building another sliding machine? I guess they would need Quinn (or could Arturo handle it on his own at this point?), and sufficiently advanced equipment. I don't think there are any theoretical complications with sliding off using a different machine than you slid onto a world with, since in "Last Days" Quinn tried to get his alternate's machine to work for that very purpose. -- Steve Chapel schapel@cs.ucsb.edu / http://www.cs.ucsb.edu/~schapel Fifth-year senior in Computer Science at the \ http://www.utilicom.com University of California, Santa Barbara / finger -l schapel@eci1.ucsb.edu "He latches onto that symbol of detachment." - Roger Waters, "Amused to Death"

1996-08-31 00:00:00 - Re: Timer/Sliding Machine Question - (Dave Flores <wolfman@etsc.net>)


Stephen C. Gallagher <stephen.gallagher@istar.ca> wrote in article <4va3tv$ih3@nr1.ottawa.istar.net>... > >As far as I can tell, the timer is a remote control. It tells the machine > >back home where to open the wormhole. It also is connected to the sliding > >machine, which analyzes and predicts when the next window of opportuniy > >will occur. The sliding machine back home is still important, since it > >actually runs everything. As for the FBI, who knows? Unofficially, Tracy > >Torme said the FBI is paying the electric bills to keep the equipment > >running, but hopefully we'll see more of them in the future. > > So does that mean that if Quinn's mother back on Earth Prime went > downstair to the basement and damaged or disassembled or pulled the > plug on the sliding machine, that they'd be trapped on whatever > world they happened to be on? If Quinn was smart enough to make a sliding maching, then he would have probably made some sort of backup system...possibly an uniterruptable power supply (hey, they make them for computers! why not one which is a little more powerful?). However, this would all depend on how much power the sliding machine uses. -- "If your id is conflicting with your ego, you need not reply!" Dave Flores - wolfman@etsc.net

1996-08-31 00:00:00 - Re: Timer/Sliding Machine Question - (Lynn <ennui@ix.netcom.com>)


In article <01bb926c$1d8e2a00$LocalHost@wolfman>, "Dave Flores" <wolfman@etsc.net> wrote: >Stephen C. Gallagher <stephen.gallagher@istar.ca> wrote in article ><4va3tv$ih3@nr1.ottawa.istar.net>... >> >As far as I can tell, the timer is a remote control. It tells the >machine >> >back home where to open the wormhole. It also is connected to the >sliding >> >machine, which analyzes and predicts when the next window of opportuniy >> >will occur. The sliding machine back home is still important, since it >> >actually runs everything. As for the FBI, who knows? Unofficially, >Tracy >> >Torme said the FBI is paying the electric bills to keep the equipment >> >running, but hopefully we'll see more of them in the future. >> >> So does that mean that if Quinn's mother back on Earth Prime went >> downstair to the basement and damaged or disassembled or pulled the >> plug on the sliding machine, that they'd be trapped on whatever >> world they happened to be on? > >If Quinn was smart enough to make a sliding maching, then he would have >probably made some sort of backup system...possibly an uniterruptable power >supply (hey, they make them for computers! why not one which is a little >more powerful?). However, this would all depend on how much power the >sliding machine uses. >-- >"If your id is conflicting with your ego, you need not reply!" >Dave Flores - wolfman@etsc.net But Quinn wasn't designing a Sliding machine. He was working on anti-grav. (How come I thought he was working on time travel? I must be confoosed.) I don't think he would have prepared for this eventuality. This was an accident. Their curiosity killed this cat. Lynn

1996-08-31 00:00:00 - Re: Timer/Sliding Machine Question - (alittman@Hawaii.Edu)


In article <509m97$bd6@dfw-ixnews6.ix.netcom.com>, Lynn <ennui@ix.netcom.com> wrote: > But Quinn wasn't designing a Sliding machine. He was working on anti-grav. >(How come I thought he was working on time travel? I must be confoosed.) I >don't think he would have prepared for this eventuality. This was an >accident. Their curiosity killed this cat. >Lynn The Quinn on Asteroid Earth was working on time travel. A.L.

1996-09-07 00:00:00 - Re: Timer/Sliding Machine Question - (elrous0@ukcc.uky.edu)


In article <4vto87$l5t@pao.cs.ucsb.edu>, schapel@cs.ucsb.edu says... >That's what bothers me about the so-called 29.97 year rule -- if they >miss the window of opportunity for sliding, what's to prevent them from >building another sliding machine? I guess they would need Quinn (or could >Arturo handle it on his own at this point?), and sufficiently advanced >equipment. I don't think there are any theoretical complications with >sliding off using a different machine than you slid onto a world with, >since in "Last Days" Quinn tried to get his alternate's machine to work >for that very purpose. And, for that matter, what kept them from using the sliding equipment on the "Azure Gate Bridge" earth to use that earth as a fixed reference point so they could pull back to a "safe house" when neccessary? It would mean a little less risk for them. -Eric

1996-09-22 00:00:00 - Re: Timer/Sliding Machine Question - (dhubbins@sonic.net)


why dont they always mess with the timer if it is unpredictable how much more could it be geez and when they got seperated in this last episode i could have sworn 2 of them had shot guns was this superdoor or what they diddnt even try dont say noise because they were going to go outside and fire 3 times what a bunch of morons and why dont they bring a glock with them also it seems like the only pistols in the universe are glocks

1996-09-22 00:00:00 - Re: Timer/Sliding Machine Question - (regnery@ix.netcom.com)


dhubbins@sonic.net (David St. Hubbins) wrote: >why dont they always mess with the timer if it is unpredictable how much more >could it be >geez and when they got seperated in this last episode i could have sworn 2 >of them had shot guns was this superdoor or what they diddnt even try >dont say noise because they were going to go outside and fire 3 times I agree about the part with the door, and numerous people in this newsgroup have posted the same comment... >what a bunch of morons and why dont they bring a glock with them also it >seems like the only pistols in the universe are glocks At the beginning of the episode, they didn't have a long time to grab gear from the table, so they just took whatever was left after all the other teams (18 or so) retrieved their gear. I don't know if that answers your question, since I can hardly figure out what you were attempting to ask. Your grammar is so garbled in that last sentence that it essentially has no meaning whatsoever. George M. Regnery | "The words "to make money" hold the essence of human regnery@ix.netcom.com | morality." -- Francisco D'Anconia (Atlas Shrugged) ----------------------+------------------------------------------------------ Links for Corporate Information: http://www.netcom.com/~regnery/corporate.html