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1996-04-09 00:00:00 - What if: No Vulcanization - (chesler@shore.net)


In article <4kador$jhg@victoria.pe.net>, Geoffrey Scott <geo@victoria.pe.net> wrote: >: In article <3165F370.4355@ezl.com>, pride@ezl.com wrote: >: > Someone else finally realized that this show's plot discrepencies are >: > totally obvious. I mean, geez, If there are infinite Earths, why is >: > modern history only changed? > >They went as far back as the American revolution. I don't think they >have the budget to do a good "talking dolphins" bit. However, something >like a world where Christianity was a minor religion that died out in >the sixth century might be possible, if the writers don't mind whatever >flack they get from die-hard Christian groups (unless the episode is >entirely pro-Christian, which may be the way to go). If I were trying to come up with a world which differed from Earth Prime on one technological access, I'd take a point-source invention/discovery, null it out, and go from there. Take anything from the Connections show on The Learning Channel (eg weavers wanting a better product lead to the Jacquard loom, a key development for Herman Hollerith to suggest using punched cards the size of the then US dollar to carry out the Constitutionally-mandated decennial census leading to ... ) Apparently what really saved the whales was the advent of methods to cheaply obtain petroleum oil... Or, since I've just moved to Woburn, Massachusetts, which is the place where Charles Goodyear accidentally dropped rubber into sulphur and discovered vulcanization, I'd ask what about a world in which vulcanized rubber does not exist? With only gum rubber tires, needing changing every hundred miles, would the modern automobile have come about? Would neoprene have been invented, and at what cost? Would Imperial Japan have cared about Malaysia? I'll leave the results to the alt.sliders.creative and the alt.history.what-if fans. -- David Chesler (chesler@shore.net - <- NOTE! chesler@world.std.com - SOMETIMES david.chesler@itcambridge.com - WORK david@absol.com - SEND MAIL HERE) "Tell me again why they call me governor instead of branch manager" Governor Bob Nelson of Nebraska, CSM 10/25/95 p18

1996-04-13 00:00:00 - Re: What if: No Vulcanization - (Michael Haylett <mikeh@mhaylett.demon.co.uk>)


David Chesler (chesler@shore.net) wrote: : In article <4kador$jhg@victoria.pe.net>, - deletions- : If I were trying to come up with a world which differed from Earth Prime : on one technological access, I'd take a point-source invention/discovery, : null it out, and go from there. -deletions- I was watching a documentary recently which gave me a plot idea,though whether the show`s budget would stretch to it I dont know.Back in the early nineteenth century an englishman called Charles Babbage came up with an idea for a mechanical computer.He was able to build a small section of his machine but could not get the financial backing to complete it.He died without being able to finish the machine leaving only the blueprints and drawings of it. (Now I come to think of it,this was the premise for the book "The Difference Engine" by William Gibson & Bruce Sterling which has been mentioned once or twice on this group.)What about a world where computers had been around for 150 years or more rather than the 50 years that we`ve had them.Would we be a more technologically advanced race or would this have caused greater devastation.Imagine,for instance if with the aid of computers they had invented atomic weapons just prior to the First World War!

1996-04-15 00:00:00 - Re: What if: No Vulcanization - (rvr@netrail.net)


Michael Haylett <mikeh@mhaylett.demon.co.uk> wrote: >I was watching a documentary recently which gave me a plot idea,though >whether the show`s budget would stretch to it I dont know.Back in the early >nineteenth century an englishman called Charles Babbage came up with an idea >for a mechanical computer.He was able to build a small section of his machine >but could not get the financial backing to complete it.He died without being >able to finish the machine leaving only the blueprints and drawings of it. >(Now I come to think of it,this was the premise for the book "The Difference >Engine" by William Gibson & Bruce Sterling which has been mentioned once or >twice on this group.)What about a world where computers had been around for >150 years or more rather than the 50 years that we`ve had them.Would we be >a more technologically advanced race or would this have caused greater >devastation.Imagine,for instance if with the aid of computers they had >invented atomic weapons just prior to the First World War! I think this would make a good show. (I'm too tired to comment beyond that... ;-) ) Peace... Valerie Whittle rvr@netrail.net

1996-04-16 00:00:00 - Re: What if: No Vulcanization - (chris.smith@zymark.com)


chesler@shore.net (David Chesler) wrote: > Take anything from the Connections show on The Learning Channel (eg >weavers wanting a better product lead to the Jacquard loom, a key >development for Herman Hollerith to suggest using punched cards the >size of the then US dollar to carry out the Constitutionally-mandated >decennial census leading to ... ) This is a great show. I have noticed that every other show goes through the invention of the clock as part of what made x go to y. What would the be like without it?