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1997-04-15 00:00:00 - Bashing of Maggie/Kari, Why? - (talon <talon@mnsi.net>)


I finally get to start reading this newsgroup again, and all I see is the bashing of Kari Wuhrer {Maggie}. Let's face it, she is an attractive woman, and she is doing what she was hired to, play a rough sexy character. Some people seem to be venting their anger at her for John RD's departure from the show. She didnt cause that people, she's just the new 4th character! Finding an actor to fill in, similarly, to him would be hard. He is a great actor. Sex does sell, and it has brought new life/ratings to Sliders. Sliders isn't sexist, how many times have we seen Quin take off his shirt?

1997-04-16 00:00:00 - Re: Bashing of Maggie/Kari, Why? - (shannen@alpha.wcoil.com)


In article <335447DD.7337@mnsi.net> talon <talon@mnsi.net> writes: >From: talon <talon@mnsi.net> >Subject: Bashing of Maggie/Kari, Why? >Date: Tue, 15 Apr 1997 20:30:37 -0700 >I finally get to start reading this newsgroup again, and all I >see is the bashing of Kari Wuhrer {Maggie}. Let's face it, she is an >attractive woman, and she is doing what she was hired to, play a rough >sexy character. > Some people seem to be venting their anger at her for John RD's >departure from the show. She didnt cause that people, she's just the >new 4th character! Finding an actor to fill in, similarly, to him would >be hard. He is a great actor. Sex does sell, and it has brought new >life/ratings to Sliders. Yes--but the addition of Maggie could have been handled *much* better. I would have liked to see them pick Maggie up on a later earth. They could have totally eliminated her character from "Exodus", and replaced both her character and her husband with expendable guest stars. Then, as they were chasing Rickman, they could have picked Maggie up a little closer to the end of the season, like Maybe in the last ep of the season. Maggie could have been someone who had a run-in with Rickman(perhaps this later world could be where her hubby was introduced and axed by Rickman)and is joining the Sliders to get revenge. This would work better for many reasons, such as allowing a few eps before a fourth slider was added to explore the effect of Arturo's death on the others, and getting rid of this whole dumb story about Maggie not being able to breathe on Earth Prime(which is dumb, because if they are ever able to get home, she can't go with them). > Sliders isn't sexist, how many times have we seen Quin take off >his shirt? As far as Quinn taking off his shirt--there is a *huge* difference(and no, I don't mean silicon). The diference is that Quinn's character was allowed to develop as a person before he started stripping off his shirt. In past eps, any time Quinn appeared without a shirt, it was related to the story(being examined by a doctor in "Fever" and "Love Gods", just getting out of the shower in "The King is Back", etc.) I hardly think that having Maggie whip off her jacket in the first 2 minutes of an ep(like in "Sole Surviors") and then spend the rest of the ep looking for various reasons to bend and lean over qualifies as character development. Of course, that's not entirely Kari's fault--it's the writers and the director. But if she was unhappy with it or not at ease with it, all she has to do is voice her opinion to the writers. I mean the whole reason Wade's character changed from a lovesick puppydog who was jealous of every woman Quinn looked twice at is because Sabrina took it upon herself to go to the writers and say, "Hey, I don't like this. Let's change it." I'm not saying the writers would majorly change Maggie, but I'm sure if Kari said, "Hey--do you mind if Maggie keeps her clothes on in an ep?", I'm sure it could be arranged... Shannen

1997-04-16 00:00:00 - Re: Bashing of Maggie/Kari, Why? - (Nat & Al Enquirer <flfoley@worldnet.att.net>)


talon <talon@mnsi.net> wrote in article <335447DD.7337@mnsi.net>... > I finally get to start reading this newsgroup again, and all I > see is the bashing of Kari Wuhrer {Maggie}. Let's face it, she is an > attractive woman, and she is doing what she was hired to, play a rough > sexy character. > > Some people seem to be venting their anger at her for John RD's > departure from the show. She didnt cause that people, she's just the > new 4th character! Finding an actor to fill in, similarly, to him would > be hard. He is a great actor. Sex does sell, and it has brought new > life/ratings to Sliders. > > Sliders isn't sexist, how many times have we seen Quin take off > his shirt? > Well, isn't that just another example of how sexist the show is becoming? If this group was looking for sex, it would probably be watching Baywatch. We (some of we -- many of we) have not found the plot changes entertaining. The writing had become fairly shoddy before JRD left. Ms. Wuhrer realization of the character has not been encouraging. The group, therefore, sounds off. Some of the comments have been quite tasteless, but mostly, you will find fans who feel the program is going in a direction they don't like and their affections for the show are not compromised. We are weakly (weekly) hoping for a turnaround. Many weeks we feel like we have spent an hour in a sulfuric fog. The cast change just exacerbates the situation. Ms. Wuhrer is in the theater of combat and will not get out of the line of fire. But if she were to leave the show, we doubt what was left would satisfy the group (or ourselves). -- Respectfully, Nat & Al

1997-04-18 00:00:00 - Bashing of Maggie/Kari, Why? - (calldrlove@aol.com)


In article <335447DD.7337@mnsi.net> talon <talon@mnsi.net> writes: >From: talon <talon@mnsi.net> >Subject: Bashing of Maggie/Kari, Why? >Date: Tue, 15 Apr 1997 20:30:37 -0700 >I finally get to start reading this newsgroup again, and all I >see is the bashing of Kari Wuhrer {Maggie}. Let's face it, she is an >attractive woman, and she is doing what she was hired to, play a rough >sexy character. > Some people seem to be venting their anger at her for John RD's >departure from the show. She didnt cause that people, she's just the >new 4th character! Finding an actor to fill in, similarly, to him would >be hard. He is a great actor. Sex does sell, and it has brought new >life/ratings to Sliders. She can not act - and her character has no chemesty with the rest of the cast.

1997-04-18 00:00:00 - Re: Bashing of Maggie/Kari, Why? - (gwilson685@aol.com)


shannen@alpha.wcoil.com (Shannen Bodell) >I'm not saying the >writers would majorly change Maggie, but I'm sure if Kari said, "Hey--do you >mind if Maggie keeps her clothes on in an ep?", I'm sure it could be >arranged... I think if she was at all concerned with the quality of the show, she would do what JRD did, step in front of a slo-motion bullet and check her character out of the show. Perhaps she could ask the writers to let her keep her shirt on, but they might then wonder what the point was. There's an old saying that you don't buy a cow unless you are going to get free milk. greg Wilson's Second Law e raised to the infinity is greater than 4

1997-04-18 00:00:00 - Re: Bashing of Maggie/Kari, Why? - (Original Gangster <ORIGINALG@webtv.net>)


Someone stated, "Perhaps she [Kari Wuhrer a.k.a. Maggie] should ask the writers if she could keep her shirt on". (paraphrasing) She should be (and probably is) PROUD of her body. She has always been in great shape, and now with the breast implants, she is near perfection. If you have it, flaunt it !!!

1997-04-19 00:00:00 - Re: Bashing of Maggie/Kari, Why? - (shannen@alpha.wcoil.com)


In article <5j967k$qmk$1@newsd-1.alma.webtv.net> Original Gangster <ORIGINALG@webtv.net> writes: >From: Original Gangster <ORIGINALG@webtv.net> >Subject: Re: Bashing of Maggie/Kari, Why? >Date: Fri, 18 Apr 1997 21:13:24 -0400 >Someone stated, "Perhaps she [Kari Wuhrer a.k.a. Maggie] should ask the >writers if she could keep her shirt on". (paraphrasing) >She should be (and probably is) PROUD of her body. She has always been >in great shape, and now with the breast implants, she is near >perfection. If you have it, flaunt it !!! Yeah, that's fine if you're on a T&A show like "Baywatch". But Sliders is not(or *was* not )a T&A show... And what's the point of being proud of implants? All that shows is you know how to open a phone book and pick the right plastic surgeon. Shannen

1997-04-19 00:00:00 - Re: Bashing of Maggie/Kari, Why? - (Decade <decade@bridge.net>)


Shannen Bodell wrote: > > In article <5j967k$qmk$1@newsd-1.alma.webtv.net> Original Gangster <ORIGINALG@webtv.net> writes: > >From: Original Gangster <ORIGINALG@webtv.net> > >Subject: Re: Bashing of Maggie/Kari, Why? > >Date: Fri, 18 Apr 1997 21:13:24 -0400 > > >Someone stated, "Perhaps she [Kari Wuhrer a.k.a. Maggie] should ask the > >writers if she could keep her shirt on". (paraphrasing) > > >She should be (and probably is) PROUD of her body. She has always been > >in great shape, and now with the breast implants, she is near > >perfection. If you have it, flaunt it !!! > > Yeah, that's fine if you're on a T&A show like "Baywatch". But Sliders is > not(or *was* not )a T&A show... > > And what's the point of being proud of implants? All that shows is you know > how to open a phone book and pick the right plastic surgeon. > > Shannen hehehe wow.... Women really do tend to support each other don't they...

1997-04-20 00:00:00 - Re: Bashing of Maggie/Kari, Why? - (kreed <kreed@colorado.net>)


> > Yes--but the addition of Maggie could have been handled *much* better. I > would have liked to see them pick Maggie up on a later earth. They could have > totally eliminated her character from "Exodus", and replaced both her > character and her husband with expendable guest stars. Then, as they were > chasing Rickman, they could have picked Maggie up a little closer to the end > of the season, like Maybe in the last ep of the season. Maggie could have been > someone who had a run-in with Rickman(perhaps this later world could be where > her hubby was introduced and axed by Rickman)and is joining the Sliders to > get revenge. This would work better for many reasons, such as allowing a few > eps before a fourth slider was added to explore the effect of Arturo's death > on the others, and getting rid of this whole dumb story about Maggie not being > able to breathe on Earth Prime(which is dumb, because if they are ever able > to get home, she can't go with them). > > > > Sliders isn't sexist, how many times have we seen Quin take off > >his shirt? > > As far as Quinn taking off his shirt--there is a *huge* difference(and no, I > don't mean silicon). The diference is that Quinn's character was allowed to > develop as a person before he started stripping off his shirt. In past eps, 1> any time Quinn appeared without a shirt, it was related to the story(being > examined by a doctor in "Fever" and "Love Gods", just getting out of the > shower in "The King is Back", etc.) I hardly think that having Maggie whip off > her jacket in the first 2 minutes of an ep(like in "Sole Surviors") and then > spend the rest of the ep looking for various reasons to bend and lean over > qualifies as character development. > > Of course, that's not entirely Kari's fault--it's the writers and the > director. But if she was unhappy with it or not at ease with it, all she has > to do is voice her opinion to the writers. I mean the whole reason Wade's > character changed from a lovesick puppydog who was jealous of every woman > Quinn looked twice at is because Sabrina took it upon herself to go to the > writers and say, "Hey, I don't like this. Let's change it." I'm not saying the > writers would majorly change Maggie, but I'm sure if Kari said, "Hey--do you > mind if Maggie keeps her clothes on in an ep?", I'm sure it could be > arranged... > > > Shannen YOU GO GIRL! That is what I have been trying to say all along. Good Job.

1997-04-20 00:00:00 - Re: Bashing of Maggie/Kari, Why? - (Slider17 <clintt@flash.net>)


CallDrLove wrote: > She can not act - and her character has no chemesty with the rest of the > cast. Well, that's not true. They all hate her (except for quinn.) -- Don't miss the slide! Please visit my Sliders web site at: http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/Set/4727/slider1.htm Let me know what you think of it.

1997-04-20 00:00:00 - Re: Bashing of Maggie/Kari, Why? - (puz1@aol.com)


Original Gangster proudly declared: >She should be (and probably is) PROUD of her body. She has always been >in great shape, and now with the breast implants, she is near >perfection. ***Uh, obviously "perfection" is in the eye of the beholder...I think you'll find more than a few men here who disagree with you. :-) BTW, if Kari was so PROUD of her body [let alone her "talent"], and "has always been in great shape", why did she feel the need to get implants? AnnieM

1997-04-20 00:00:00 - Re: Bashing of Maggie/Kari, Why? - (bones3d@winternet.com)


C'mon now! David Hasselhoff is a GREAT actor! :-) 8==8 Bones3D 8==8 >> Yeah, that's fine if you're on a T&A show like "Baywatch"

1997-04-20 00:00:00 - Re: Bashing of Maggie/Kari, Why? - (Original Gangster <ORIGINALG@webtv.net>)


I had originally stated: "She [Kari Wuhrer] should be (and probably is) PROUD of her body. She has always been in great shape, and now with the breast implants is near perfection". AnnieM replied, "...if Kari was so PROUD of her body... and 'has always been in great shape', why did she feel the need to get implants?" I said that she [probably] IS proud of her body - meaning AFTER the implants, which is why she is showing it off. I said that she has always been in great shape, which is my personal opinion of her body fat ratio. There are many reasons why she could have wanted breast implants, but two reasons could be: 1) To advance her career, 2) To improve her self image.

1997-04-21 00:00:00 - Re: Bashing of Maggie/Kari, Why? - (aw267@FreeNet.Carleton.CA)


Puz1 (puz1@aol.com) writes: > > BTW, if Kari was so PROUD of her body [let alone her "talent"], and "has > always been in great shape", why did she feel the need to get implants? Just because she got implants doesn't necessarily mean that she was not proud of her body before, nor does it mean that she wasn't in great shape either. i would think the real reason she got implants was part of a strategic move to advance her career in an industry that places enormous emphasis on physical appearance. And who knows, she could be right. She might have a great potential for acting, but was always shut out because of her natural physique. I think it is too harsh to damn a person just for getting implants. They *do* give her a great deal of opportunity in the industry, and I don't think it will change in our lifetimes. Greg

1997-04-21 00:00:00 - Re: Bashing of Maggie/Kari, Why? - (ak640@freenet.hamilton.on.ca)


Puz1 (puz1@aol.com) wrote: : BTW, if Kari was so PROUD of her body [let alone her "talent"], and "has : always been in great shape", why did she feel the need to get implants? Because she wanted bigger boobs. -- He's a complicated man and no one understands him but his woman he's Malecki, Mike Malecki. -Malecki, Mike Malecki

1997-04-23 00:00:00 - Re: Bashing of Maggie/Kari, Why? - (puz1@aol.com)


Mike Malecki wrote: >Puz1 (puz1@aol.com) wrote: > >: BTW, if Kari was so PROUD of her body [let alone her "talent"], and "has >: always been in great shape", why did she feel the need to get implants? > >Because she wanted bigger boobs. ***Well, ya got me there. :-) AnnieM

1997-04-25 00:00:00 - Re: Bashing of Maggie/Kari, Why? - (cook@sos.sos.net)


bones3d@winternet.com (James Meade) wrote: >C'mon now! David Hasselhoff is a GREAT actor! :-) >8==8 Bones3D 8==8 >>> Yeah, that's fine if you're on a T&A show like "Baywatch" This reminds me of quote about the 1930's-40's cowboy movie star Gene Autry, as stated by his on-screen sidekick Pat Buttram: "Couldn't act, couldn't ride, couldn't sing, couldn't shoot, couldn't rope, but, boy, that sucker sure knew how to add.." Robert M. Cook cook@sos.net http://www.sos.net/home/cook/index2.htm