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1997-05-10 00:00:00 - Rickman's Timer - ("Brannon \"Ben\" Boren" <brannonb@u.washington.edu>)


Something funny just occured to me. As I recall in "Breeder," there's a comment from one of the characters in regard to the "parasite world" that they should erase those coordinates from the timer's memory. Wouldn't it be a real knee-slapper if they got Rickman's timer, and he had long ago erased their home coordinates? After all, it's a world where he can't breathe (supposedly), so why would he want to keep it in memory? Now *that's* entertainment. ;) Ben _ | | | | Brannon "Ben" Boren /~~~\ brannonb@u.washington.edu / Rx \ University of Washington Pharmacy, Pharm.D. 2001 (_______) http://weber.u.washington.edu/~brannonb/

1997-05-11 00:00:00 - Re: Rickman's Timer - (firebug888@aol.com)


>Well, if it's true that Rickman bites the big one in next week's >episode, they're gonna have to find some way of stringing the show's >premise along, on the off-chance the show gets renewed. >Sooo.. it'll either be your idea, or Rickman's timer will be destroyed >when he dies. >Also, it should be amusing to see what lame reason they come up with >for keeping Woo-Woo around after Rickman's toast. Unless, they >actually get rid of.. nah. Never happen. Why not make the whole damn 3rd season a bad dream? I think they did that on one other show a while back. Hey, this would be a great way to bring back the Professor without having to worry about plot inconsistency.

1997-05-11 00:00:00 - Re: Rickman's Timer - (forge@magicnet.net)


> Also, it should be amusing to see what lame reason they come up with > for keeping Woo-Woo around after Rickman's toast. Unless, they > actually get rid of.. nah. Never happen. I told you people long ago, she's not staying. They're replacing her with Pamela Anderson Lee.

1997-05-11 00:00:00 - Re: Rickman's Timer - (puz1@aol.com)


Ben wrote: >My point was that they need to limit the capabilities of the gizmo in order >for the stories to be workable dramatically. That's why they have to wait >for a "window" to slide. They should NOT be able to return to previously >visited worlds. It's bad. ***I totally agree with everything Ben said; there's not much emotional impact when they're more or less able to move about the multiverse at will. AnnieM ...who *also* misses the ol' Motorola timer...

1997-05-11 00:00:00 - Re: Rickman's Timer - ("Brannon \"Ben\" Boren" <brannonb@u.washington.edu>)


Robert Cook <cook@sos.sos.net> wrote: > Sooo.. it'll either be your idea, or Rickman's timer will be destroyed > when he dies. IF Rickman dies... (which I fully endorse) I actually figure on Rickman's timer being destroyed. In *my* version of that script, it would be done in such a way that the Sliders have a chance to save Rickman's timer, but must choose not to in order to acheive a more important goal, such as saving someone's life. > Also, it should be amusing to see what lame reason they come up with > for keeping Woo-Woo around after Rickman's toast. Unless, they > actually get rid of.. nah. Never happen. This is actually a potentially powerful scene. Maggie has finally achieved her goal of killing Rickman, but her husband, her entire planet, and even most of the survivors from that disaster, are dead. What is her life for now? The only life she ever had was as an officer, which she replaced with her revenge motivation. Rickman is dead, but so is her husband, and she should find that the relief she expected at Rickman's death does not come. Somehow Maggie thinks that the pain of her husband's death will be nullified by Rickman's demise, but that ought not be the case if the show is to have any integrity. Granted Maggie has never stated this feeling, but her strong motivation for revenge could have no other base if she's to be a sympathetic character. However, I am almost positive that none of the above will occur. Rickman will die, Maggie will say, "Yes!" and follow up not with a "I'm lost now" attitude but instead with a "So what's next? Oh, I guess I'll come with you guys... cuz I kinda like you, though don't expect me to show it." MY BIG HOPE: Get rid of the $*%&#$ COORDINATE MEMORY! Take away their ability to store coordinates for return to previous worlds! This DESTROYS the posibility of constructing the types of wonderful endings the first season was ripe with. In nearly every instance, the FINALITY of the slider's departure was the fuel for the irony or emotional involvement of the audience! How good was the end of Last Days, if they could just turn around and go back when Arturo realized the plans were missing? How amusing would Oil Boom World from "Fever" have been without the idea that it was a great world but they could *never come back to it*? How do you get tension out of them considering staying on a good world? "Oh fine, stick around. We'll slide back for you in a couple of months..." How tear-jerking is ANY departure, when they can go back anytime? For that matter, in "Breeder" why didn't they turn right around and slide back to that world where they'd let the parasite loose. They're so gung-ho "we have a responsibility to do the right thing!" all the time - this seemed like the time for it. Sure Rickman's going to kill a few people, maybe a thousand or more in his lifetime. But the parasite will surely kill millions once it spreads! And they're directly responsible for the parasite, while Rickman was a psycho killer before the Sliders ever came along! But I digress... My point was that they need to limit the capabilities of the gizmo in order for the stories to be workable dramatically. That's why they have to wait for a "window" to slide. They should NOT be able to return to previously visited worlds. It's bad. Trash the Egyptian Timer (which was POORLY introduced anyway, but that's another thread) and go back to the flip-phone. Ben -- _ | | | | Brannon "Ben" Boren /~~~\ brannonb@u.washington.edu / Rx \ University of Washington Pharmacy, Pharm.D. 2001 (_______) http://weber.u.washington.edu/~brannonb/

1997-05-12 00:00:00 - Re: Rickman's Timer - (kreed <kreed@colorado.net>)


forge@magicnet.net (John Baker) writes: > > Also, it should be amusing to see what lame reason they come up with > > for keeping Woo-Woo around after Rickman's toast. Unless, they > > actually get rid of.. nah. Never happen. > > I told you people long ago, she's not staying. They're replacing her with > Pamela Anderson Lee. Who? Why?

1997-05-12 00:00:00 - Re: Rickman's Timer - (Black Fox <tec@cei.net>)


John Baker wrote: > > > Also, it should be amusing to see what lame reason they come up with > > for keeping Woo-Woo around after Rickman's toast. Unless, they > > actually get rid of.. nah. Never happen. > > I told you people long ago, she's not staying. They're replacing her with > Pamela Anderson Lee. Gee I thought it was gonna be Tori Spelling... After all, Aaron Spelling has contributed so much 'quality' to the FOX network in care of shows like Beverly Hells 90210, and Hellrose Place. So why not reward him with such a wonderful thing as allowing his daughter to traipse through parallel worlds on the TV show Sliders. Perhaps they can even find a way to replace Rembrandt Brown with a character played by Luke Perry.. (Starting to Cringe) -------> In came the nurse, she pushed open the double doors of the ward. On the tray were three cups of pudding. Each one contained a mysterious mixture of Iodine and Tylenol. She wheeled over to the three patients who were drooling as usual at their television. To each she handed a cup. They instantly perked up, gobbled down the pudding, and then began to speak. The nurse turned around and promptly left the ward. "So, the word on the net is that Sliders fans are upset with the way the show is going..." spoke the first one. "Apparently they don't like the changes in the show and wish it would rather be cancelled than be murdered like it it." "So.. Renew it then, the public opinion is not our business. It has no bearing on our plan.." spoke the second one. "The plan! Shhhhhhhh. We're not to talk about the plan." chimed in the third. The first one interjected, "It's always the same old thing. Remember when Married with Children and The Simpsons came out? People hated them. They threw fits. But did we listen? No.. And look what happened, we lulled them into submission. The Slider's fans will fall in line.. just give the show another four or five years at it's current trend." "But they like the originality of the first two seasons," the third blurted out. "Yes.... originality does not pay though does it?..." interjected the second one. "Well, here's a little pill to go along with all this. Some of those nutty Space: Above and Beyond fans are actually saying they are glad we cancelled the show before it could be massacred like Sliders is." the second added to the topic at hand. "Really?" said the first, "Perhaps we should bring it back, and you know.. modify it. We could get a few new actors to replace the one's we didn't like, and sort of turn it into... A Space Opera. Yessssssssssss...... That is it! They thought we were evil when we cancelled it in light of their support, imagine how happy they will be to see the show return. And then to be crushed to find that their beloved characters are not all returning." continued the first. "Oh Rupie! You are a genius!" chimed in the other two at the same time. "And we can get Tori Spelling as a guest star!" the second one exclaimed with glee. After much mad giggling, and convulsions, they resumed their watching of the television. Soon after the nurse returned with a couple of orderlies. "Gentleman, it's time for your sponge bath with the cast of Melrose Place.. After that I'll get you the progress report on our operation to eliminate the Nielsien families." -------> Yes, I know it is a bit weird. Sorry. Stephen E. Gideon (aka: Black Fox) Editor, NetZine Science Fiction Fanzine http://www.cei.net/~tec Note to E-Mail Advertisers: By sending unsolicited commercial e-mail and/or the inclusion of my user-id (tec@cei.net) in any mailing list without my express prior written approval, including the receipt of a mass e-mail message and/or the unauthorized reselling of this user-id (tec@cei.net) to mailing list vendors, you agree to pay the sum of $1000 per unsolicited commercial e-mail message I recieve.

1997-05-12 00:00:00 - Re: Spelling, the bane of TV existense (was Re: Rickman's Timer) - (Chaos15 <chaos15@ix.netcom.com>)


Black Fox wrote: > > Gee I thought it was gonna be Tori Spelling... > > After all, Aaron Spelling has contributed so much 'quality' to the FOX > network in care of shows like Beverly Hells 90210, and Hellrose Place. > So why not reward him with such a wonderful thing as allowing his > daughter to traipse through parallel worlds on the TV show Sliders. > Perhaps they can even find a way to replace Rembrandt Brown with a > character played by Luke Perry.. (Starting to Cringe) > > -------> > > In came the nurse, she pushed open the double doors of the ward. On the > tray were three cups of pudding. Each one contained a mysterious mixture > of Iodine and Tylenol. She wheeled over to the three patients who were > drooling as usual at their television. To each she handed a cup. They > instantly perked up, gobbled down the pudding, and then began to speak. > The nurse turned around and promptly left the ward. > > "So, the word on the net is that Sliders fans are upset with the way the > show is going..." spoke the first one. "Apparently they don't like the > changes in the show and wish it would rather be cancelled than be > murdered like it it." > > "So.. Renew it then, the public opinion is not our business. It has no > bearing on our plan.." spoke the second one. > > "The plan! Shhhhhhhh. We're not to talk about the plan." chimed in the > third. > > The first one interjected, "It's always the same old thing. Remember > when Married with Children and The Simpsons came out? People hated them. > They threw fits. But did we listen? No.. And look what happened, we > lulled them into submission. The Slider's fans will fall in line.. just > give the show another four or five years at it's current trend." > > "But they like the originality of the first two seasons," the third > blurted out. > > "Yes.... originality does not pay though does it?..." interjected the > second one. > > "Well, here's a little pill to go along with all this. Some of those > nutty Space: Above and Beyond fans are actually saying they are glad we > cancelled the show before it could be massacred like Sliders is." the > second added to the topic at hand. > > "Really?" said the first, "Perhaps we should bring it back, and you > know.. modify it. We could get a few new actors to replace the one's we > didn't like, and sort of turn it into... A Space Opera. > Yessssssssssss...... That is it! They thought we were evil when we > cancelled it in light of their support, imagine how happy they will be > to see the show return. And then to be crushed to find that their > beloved characters are not all returning." continued the first. > > "Oh Rupie! You are a genius!" chimed in the other two at the same time. > > "And we can get Tori Spelling as a guest star!" the second one exclaimed > with glee. > > After much mad giggling, and convulsions, they resumed their watching of > the television. Soon after the nurse returned with a couple of > orderlies. "Gentleman, it's time for your sponge bath with the cast of > Melrose Place.. After that I'll get you the progress report on our > operation to eliminate the Nielsien families." > > -------> > > Yes, I know it is a bit weird. Sorry. ROTFL!!!!! Weird but the way things are going, plausible. This all reminds me of my theory that Spelling is the Anti-Christ and all roads lead to him. I don't know if this has ever been discussed on the Netforum or this NG before, so I thought I'd point it out. In the second season Rebecca Gayheart played Natalie and she was also Luke Perry's love interest on 90210. Brooke Langton (Daelin) was Quinn's long lost love and now plays Billy's girlfriend on Melrose. Before Sliders, Jerry starred in Calendar Girl with Jason Priestly. Kari was in 90210 as the hoochie in the limo who fooled around with David (awww, poor Donna). I don't think there are any more examples, but if it returns next season, who knows what other Spelling refugee will show up! "Tune in Friday when Shannen Doherty and Kari's Maggie battle it out in 'Bitchopalooza '97'!"

1997-05-15 00:00:00 - Re: Rickman's Timer - (Shakini <scarlson@mail.llion.org>)


I can see the potential for Maggie that you see...but I guess I have a bit less respect for her in that before her hubby died, and also after, there were too many close call kisses with Quinn. It's almost like you wonder what her full emotional involvment with her husband was. I can't help it, I'm happily married and guess I like that sort of thing, that sort of trust and love. And I do miss the endings that you mention:)