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2000-04-22 00:00:00 - Re: Live Fast and Prosper (SPOILERS) - (Wavemaker <wavemaker@my-deja.com>)


"KalElFan" wrote: > Note spoliers in the thread title... > > This was the first of six remaining episodes this season, with > the last four of those airing during the all-important May sweeps. > One therefore assumes the powers that be considered this and > next week's episode relatively weaker than the others, at least > in terms of drawing power. An interesting theory. Unfortunately, I'm not sure what TPTB think of as drawing power equates to quality for the fans. We'll see. > Having seen Live Fast and Prosper, I think they made the right > decision. It's a decent episode, but it also strikes me as a > filler-type episode in terms of production. The regular cast's > workload was lightened in favor of the 5 guest stars. For some > reason I was under the impression when I read the spoilers > on this episode that the "imposters" would be played by > Mulgrew and Russ and/or other regulars. I had the same impression. > I think that premise > might have been more fun actually, watching them play con > artists. There are lots of ways it could have been explained, > but the point is we'd see the regulars having fun with this. I would agree with you, but watching the actress that played the faux Janeway and the actor that played the faux Tuvok was really enjoyable. Your point is well taken, though. Aliens with the right technology could impersonate just about anyone down to their exact appearance. And it would have given the actors a chance to poke fun at themselves. That would have been fun now that i think about it. > But this is what we had and again it was decent. I agree with > many of the comments I've read here, even the shalllow ones, > :-), e.g., the Janeway imposter was cute. The Tuvok imposter > reminded me a bit of Tuvix for some reason, but I like Wave's > comment about him being a Star Trek fan at a convention. If > you look at it that way, he was great fun. I loved that. I wasn't expecting it either. These were experienced con artists. For them, it was just another scam. So when the faux Tuvok begin really taking his role seriously, I found it even more amusing. The meeting between the two Tuvok's has to be one of the funniest moments on Voyager. I'm looking forward to seeing this ep again just for that scene. > And Neelix got some good screen time. Neelix and Tom were both excellent here. > Plot-wise, I wasn't surprised by the sting they were doing when > I saw Neelix get his phaser stolen. The earlier Janeway and > Tuvok bit (the death by psoriasis thing) was okay. Looking back on that scene, I'm not so sure Janeway was expecting anything to come of her embellishment of the facts. I think she was just having a little fun with her prisoner. The threat of turning her over to the aliens was real enough. > I also > expected The Doctor morph the minute I saw the Janeway > imposter was double-crossing the other two, but I still thought > that was neat. You were way ahead of me then. I wasn't expecting any of that! > I'm not sure I remember that ability getting > established before now, but consider the possibilities! :-) I think it's pretty cool. However, I also think that Arlie has a point. It may make the Doc too powerful. I think they could use this capability again as long as it isn't over used. I don't think we have much to worry about. The producers seem to have a very short memory for these kinds of things. Odds are we will never see the Doc do this again. > I mean, if Picardo ever wants some time off, the Doctor could > take an interest in 20th (and 21st!) century actors. Try to spice > up his image, so he's sexier to Arlie. :-) One week he could be > played by Brad Pitt. Next week... is Jack Nicholson a Star Trek > fan? Think of the ratings here! Even cameos from some of these > actors, as The Doctor experiments with his new look, could be > a huge ratings boost. And of course we now know The Doctor > could also be female. Ashley Judd could return for a Star Trek > guest spot. Maybe. As long as it wouldn't become a farce. > Of course I started out trying to be funny here, but come to think > of it it could boost ratings. "Watch Voyager and be surprised by > the all-star cameos!" Heck, if Tom Hanks and Bruce Willis do > guest spots on other series, why not? So maybe we'll look back > on that Doctor morph in this episode as an important event in > Star Trek history. Or not. > > The only depressing thing about the episode was that they're > still 30,000 light years from home. Isn't that just the halfway > point? Geez, the Professor from Gilligan's Island would have > found a way to get these folks further home by now. If they're to get home by the end of next season, they'll have to put the technobabble into overdrive to do it. I have every confidence in the producers to pull whatever they need out of their asses in order to get Voyager home.

2000-04-22 00:00:00 - Re: Live Fast and Prosper (SPOILERS) - (arlie88@aol.comNoSpam)


>> I mean, if Picardo ever wants some time off, the Doctor could take an interest in 20th (and 21st!) century actors. Try to spice up his image, so he's sexier to Arlie. :-) << If so, I suggest he be played by Garrett Wang. <g> Actually, Garrett does a pretty mean Picardo impression. I wish they'd figure out a way to use it on-screen sometime. -- Arlie

2000-04-22 00:00:00 - Re: Live Fast and Prosper (SPOILERS) - (shamtrek@aol.compizzagrl)


>From: kalelfan@aol.com (KalElFan) Congratulations on your first on topic post! >I mean, if Picardo ever wants some time off, the Doctor could >take an interest in 20th (and 21st!) century actors. Try to spice >up his image, so he's sexier to Arlie. :-) One week he could be >played by Brad Pitt. Next week... is Jack Nicholson a Star Trek >fan? Think of the ratings here! This I like!! (But please, no Sad Pitt)

2000-04-22 00:00:00 - Live Fast and Prosper (SPOILERS) - (kalelfan@aol.com)


Note spoliers in the thread title... This was the first of six remaining episodes this season, with the last four of those airing during the all-important May sweeps. One therefore assumes the powers that be considered this and next week's episode relatively weaker than the others, at least in terms of drawing power. Having seen Live Fast and Prosper, I think they made the right decision. It's a decent episode, but it also strikes me as a filler-type episode in terms of production. The regular cast's workload was lightened in favor of the 5 guest stars. For some reason I was under the impression when I read the spoilers on this episode that the "imposters" would be played by Mulgrew and Russ and/or other regulars. I think that premise might have been more fun actually, watching them play con artists. There are lots of ways it could have been explained, but the point is we'd see the regulars having fun with this. But this is what we had and again it was decent. I agree with many of the comments I've read here, even the shalllow ones, :-), e.g., the Janeway imposter was cute. The Tuvok imposter reminded me a bit of Tuvix for some reason, but I like Wave's comment about him being a Star Trek fan at a convention. If you look at it that way, he was great fun. And Neelix got some good screen time. Plot-wise, I wasn't surprised by the sting they were doing when I saw Neelix get his phaser stolen. The earlier Janeway and Tuvok bit (the death by psoriasis thing) was okay. I also expected The Doctor morph the minute I saw the Janeway imposter was double-crossing the other two, but I still thought that was neat. I'm not sure I remember that ability getting established before now, but consider the possibilities! :-) I mean, if Picardo ever wants some time off, the Doctor could take an interest in 20th (and 21st!) century actors. Try to spice up his image, so he's sexier to Arlie. :-) One week he could be played by Brad Pitt. Next week... is Jack Nicholson a Star Trek fan? Think of the ratings here! Even cameos from some of these actors, as The Doctor experiments with his new look, could be a huge ratings boost. And of course we now know The Doctor could also be female. Ashley Judd could return for a Star Trek guest spot. Of course I started out trying to be funny here, but come to think of it it could boost ratings. "Watch Voyager and be surprised by the all-star cameos!" Heck, if Tom Hanks and Bruce Willis do guest spots on other series, why not? So maybe we'll look back on that Doctor morph in this episode as an important event in Star Trek history. Or not. The only depressing thing about the episode was that they're still 30,000 light years from home. Isn't that just the halfway point? Geez, the Professor from Gilligan's Island would have found a way to get these folks further home by now. KalElFan@aol.com

2000-04-23 00:00:00 - Re: Live Fast and Prosper (SPOILERS) - (shamtrek@aol.compizzagrl)


>From: kalelfan > the Doctor could >>>take an interest in 20th (and 21st!) century actors. Try to spice >>>up his image, so he's sexier to Arlie. :-) One week he could be >>>played by Brad Pitt. Next week... is Jack Nicholson a Star Trek >>>fan? Think of the ratings here! >> >>This I like!! >>(But please, no Sad Pitt) > >How about Gwyneth Paltrow then? :-) She bores me, Hilary Swank would be better.

2000-04-23 00:00:00 - Re: Live Fast and Prosper (SPOILERS) - (kalelfan@aol.com)


In article <20000422094419.18647.00006564@ng-cg1.aol.com>, >If so, I suggest he be played by Garrett Wang. <g> > >Actually, Garrett does a pretty mean Picardo impression. I wish >they'd figure out a way to use it on-screen sometime. That could be done here, now that the morph we saw last week has been established as one of the Doctor's powers (maybe it was established before, but I never noticed like I did here). KalElFan@aol.com

2000-04-23 00:00:00 - Re: Live Fast and Prosper (SPOILERS) - (kalelfan@aol.com)


In article <20000422111318.17026.00000172@ng-fb1.aol.com>, shamtrek@aol.compizzagrl (Shammie) writes: >Congratulations on your first on topic post! Just recently. I've had lots of on-topic posts here before, several weeks ago and then going back in steps over the last several years. >>I mean, if Picardo ever wants some time off, the Doctor could >>take an interest in 20th (and 21st!) century actors. Try to spice >>up his image, so he's sexier to Arlie. :-) One week he could be >>played by Brad Pitt. Next week... is Jack Nicholson a Star Trek >>fan? Think of the ratings here! > >This I like!! >(But please, no Sad Pitt) How about Gwyneth Paltrow then? :-) KalElFan@aol.com

2000-04-23 00:00:00 - Re: Live Fast and Prosper (SPOILERS) - (kalelfan@aol.com)


In article <YInM4.1715$CV4.67821@news2.randori.com>, "Wavemaker" <wavemaker@my-deja.com> writes: >An interesting theory. Unfortunately, I'm not sure what TPTB think >of as drawing power equates to quality for the fans. We'll see. I think they must believe it has both. Drawing power is fine, but if the episode sucks people may not come back for the important sweeps episode the following week. I think they've actually been pretty good in this series placing their better episodes in sweeps, but that's just the impression I have. >> Having seen Live Fast and Prosper, I think they made the right >> decision. It's a decent episode, but it also strikes me as a >> filler-type episode in terms of production. The regular cast's >> workload was lightened in favor of the 5 guest stars. For some >> reason I was under the impression when I read the spoilers >> on this episode that the "imposters" would be played by >> Mulgrew and Russ and/or other regulars. > >I had the same impression. Yep. I don't think it was just me, and I think casual fans reading the TV Guide blurb this week might have thought the same and may also have expected to see more of The Doctor. I don't have last week's guides any more, but when one thinks "imposters" -- being so familiar as we are with what these characters look like -- I think we assume they have to be good imposters, i.e., doubles. >> I think that premise >> might have been more fun actually, watching them play con >> artists. There are lots of ways it could have been explained, >> but the point is we'd see the regulars having fun with this. > >I would agree with you, but watching the actress that played the faux >Janeway and the actor that played the faux Tuvok was really enjoyable. It wasn't bad that way, I just think it might have been better the other way. It would have been different, and we would have lost what worked "alright" here, but I think there was more upside the other way. >I don't think we have much to worry about. The producers seem to >have a very short memory for these kinds of things. Odds are we >will never see the Doc do this again. But I want those cameos next year, dammit! :-) I think it could be written so it was fun not farce, and it might be just the kind of quick and quirky thing they could get some name actors to do. >If they're to get home by the end of next season, they'll have to put the >technobabble into overdrive to do it. I have every confidence in the >producers to pull whatever they need out of their asses in order to get >Voyager home. I think they would have been better off getting home before now, but if there's one benefit now it's that they can milk this in season 7. For example they could get into normal Federation communication range November sweeps, the frontier of the Federation in February sweeps, and an Earth ep or two in May sweeps before wrapping up or handing off to a new series. KalElFan@aol.com

2000-04-24 00:00:00 - Re: Live Fast and Prosper (SPOILERS) - (arlie88@aol.comNoSpam)


>> Garrett does an even meaner Janeway impression. Could you imagine seeing that on-screen sometime?! I'd pay money to see it ;-) << I'd love to see Harry imitating Janeway...and have Janeway catch him at it. He would die! -- Arlie

2000-04-24 00:00:00 - Re: Live Fast and Prosper (SPOILERS) - (juli17@aol.com)


>>> I mean, if Picardo ever wants some time off, the Doctor could >take an interest in 20th (and 21st!) century actors. Try to spice >up his image, so he's sexier to Arlie. :-) << > >If so, I suggest he be played by Garrett Wang. <g> > >Actually, Garrett does a pretty mean Picardo impression. I wish they'd >figure >out a way to use it on-screen sometime. > > > > >-- Arlie Garrett does an even meaner Janeway impression. Could you imagine seeing that on-screen sometime?! I'd pay money to see it ;-) Julie