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2000-02-18 00:00:00 - Re: "Collective" -SPOILERS - ("David B." <bothecat@hotmail.com>)


Shammie wrote: > > >From: TECHLAB > > >>> >>I was quite disappointed in how Seven-focused this was. (I am getting > >*so* > >>> >>tired of her!) > >> > >>*snicker* Tough. <g> > > >(actually, that was Shammie, not me.) > > Wrong! > BONK! It was Arlie. > I'm the one sick of the catsuits, not of Seven. I'm sick of the catsuits as well...Seven should be naked 24/7. -- Scully: Snake handling, they didn't talk about that in catechism. Mulder: Maybe not, but I used to know a couple of Catholic school girls, who were experts at it. - The X-Files: "Signs and Wonders" http://pages.whowhere.com/entertainment/scififan/

2000-02-18 00:00:00 - Re: "Collective" -SPOILERS - ("David B." <bothecat@hotmail.com>)


Steve Christianson wrote: > > X-No-Archive: yes > > TECHLAB@photo-rescue.com wrote: > > > > >>I was quite disappointed in how Seven-focused this was. (I am getting *so* > > >>tired of her!) > > *snicker* Tough. <g> > > > > I'm insulted by the fact that they use her so often (given the obvious > > reason she was added) but I actually like her a lot. > > > > >I'm actually tired of the catsuits, and I used to love them. Although the > > >vibrant blue one at the end is definitely her most flattering color. > > BLUE??? Baby Doll wore her BLUE??? GRRRRRRRR, I can't wait until > Saturday to see this! Yep, it's all blue. -- Scully: Snake handling, they didn't talk about that in catechism. Mulder: Maybe not, but I used to know a couple of Catholic school girls, who were experts at it. - The X-Files: "Signs and Wonders" http://pages.whowhere.com/entertainment/scififan/

2000-02-18 00:00:00 - Re: "Collective" -SPOILERS - ("David B." <bothecat@hotmail.com>)


Arlie wrote: > > > spoiler space..... > > . > > . > > . > > . > > . > > . > > . > > . > > . > > . > > . > > . > > . > > . > > . > >> And is it supposed to be a bad thing that Butts and Wood don't show up > all that much? :-) << > > Well, I wouldn't expect you to mourn over-much! <g> But dramatically, it > seemed unbalanced to me, to put our heroes in peril that way...then never show > them again. Yeah, I kept waiting for them to show what Chakotay, Tom and Neelix were doing. Maybe they were playing poker? Or Chak was sawing logs... -- Scully: Snake handling, they didn't talk about that in catechism. Mulder: Maybe not, but I used to know a couple of Catholic school girls, who were experts at it. - The X-Files: "Signs and Wonders" http://pages.whowhere.com/entertainment/scififan/

2000-02-18 00:00:00 - Re: "Collective" -SPOILERS - (arlie88@aol.comNoSpam)


> spoiler space..... > . > . > . > . > . > . > . > . > . > . > . > . > . > . > . >> And is it supposed to be a bad thing that Butts and Wood don't show up all that much? :-) << Well, I wouldn't expect you to mourn over-much! <g> But dramatically, it seemed unbalanced to me, to put our heroes in peril that way...then never show them again. >> > Poor Harry. Seven finally shows some concern for him, and even caresses his > cheek, but he's not conscious to enjoy it! Poor guy! :-( << He really got beat up in this one. I wonder how many days Garrett had to spend lying on the floor in that Borg control room, serving as a backdrop for Seven's big argument with the kids? Oh, well. He showed more life while unconscious than that Chakotay did while commanding the shuttle in battle. <g> >> > We see B'Elanna at Ops this week, taking Harry's place. She doesn't seem > particularly upset that Tom is captured, nor particularly happy when he is > rescued. Would *you* be? << Well, yes. If only because poor Harry would be so upset if anything happened to Tom. However, if I were B'Elanna, I'd have long since stuffed Tom's lifeless body into the warp core, and told everyone that he ran off with some alien floozy. <g> >>> Harry's "haunted house" crack was very Paris-like, but not nearly as annoying > as Paris would have made it. <g> And Tuvok seemed almost amused, rather than > irritated, as he usually is with Paris. Surprise, surprise! That was my favorite bit! :-) << I liked that part a lot. You could tell Tuvok thought Harry was being silly, but he tried to reassure him anyway, with no hint of the Vulcan scorn others have been known to get. Tuvok and Harry are charming together. And it was nice to see Tuvok at Janeway's side again, too. -- Arlie

2000-02-18 00:00:00 - Re: "Collective" -SPOILERS - (shamtrek@aol.compizzagrl)


>From: TECHLAB >>I'm actually tired of the catsuits, and I used to love them. Although the >>vibrant blue one at the end is definitely her most flattering color. > >I agree on the color. that worked very well for her. But (Sorry, >SteveC .. ) I could do without the catsuits too. They aren't subtle >enough. Subtle is more intriguing than the glaringly obvious. The catsuits were cool in the beginning, but now they just seem...dated! I'd love to take her shopping. With someone's platinum card, of course. SoHo, here we come!

2000-02-18 00:00:00 - "Collective" -SPOILERS - (arlie88@aol.comNoSpam)


spoiler space..... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Well, I think the opening scene was my favorite part. I like the idea of the seemingly innocent Neelix hustling the others. But boy, talk about your misleading teasers. Chakotay, Paris, and Neelix are hardly seen at all after that, and Harry doesn't fare much better. I must say, Harry was a tasty morsel this week. Love that harness, and the longer hair. (But isn't it kind of silly for him to leave a trail of breadcrumbs? Why not use a tricorder or a padd and make a map?) Poor Harry. Seven finally shows some concern for him, and even caresses his cheek, but he's not conscious to enjoy it! Paris gets to chew the scenery a little, demanding that they find the missing Harry and panicking at the prospect of being assimilated. Chakotay gets to play commander, calming Tom down. (This scene should make both the P/Kers and the C/Pers happy. ;-) We see B'Elanna at Ops this week, taking Harry's place. She doesn't seem particularly upset that Tom is captured, nor particularly happy when he is rescued. Maybe she found out that he told Seven about Toby the Targ last week. With Chakotay gone, Janeway actually consults with Tuvok. And I liked the Tuvok-Harry bit, where he's guiding Harry through the Borg cube. Tuvok and Harry seem to have a much less antagonistic relationship that Tuvok and Paris. Harry's "haunted house" crack was very Paris-like, but not nearly as annoying as Paris would have made it. <g> And Tuvok seemed almost amused, rather than irritated, as he usually is with Paris. We find out that Seven spent five years in a maturation chamber. I guess that means her growth *was* accelerated. She was only seven when she was captured, so she would have been only 12 when she got out. That's younger than most of the drones in this episode appeared to be, and they were not mature. I was quite disappointed in how Seven-focused this was. (I am getting *so* tired of her!) We see Tom, Harry, Neelix, and Chuckles in the teaser, and then hardly see them again. It just seems *wrong* to resolve their situation with one line of dialog, just to lavish more time on Seven and the Borg brats. Grrr. And this is the third week in a row we've seen the Chakotay, Paris, Kim, and Neelix combination. They "bonded" on a two-week shuttle mission in "Memorial," ditched B'Elanna to go to the fights in "Tsunkatse," and this week, it's poker night for the boys. Hmmm. What could it mean? Probably that the writers have realized if they show those four together, rather than separately, they've freed up three more scenes for Seven.... Next week: Janeway's boyfriend needs new batteries, and Harry gets a roll in the hay. "Fair Haven" goes comedy. Intentionally, this time. <g> -- Arlie

2000-02-18 00:00:00 - Re: "Collective" -SPOILERS - (shamtrek@aol.compizzagrl)


>From: arlie88@aol.comNoSpam (Arlie) >. >. >. >. >. >. >. > >Poor Harry. Seven finally shows some concern for him, and even caresses his >cheek, but he's not conscious to enjoy it! LOL! Damn! snip >I was quite disappointed in how Seven-focused this was. (I am getting *so* >tired of her!) I'm actually tired of the catsuits, and I used to love them. Although the vibrant blue one at the end is definitely her most flattering color.

2000-02-19 00:00:00 - Re: "Collective" -SPOILERS - (shamtrek@aol.compizzagrl)


>From: TECHLAB >>> >>I was quite disappointed in how Seven-focused this was. (I am getting >*so* >>> >>tired of her!) >> >>*snicker* Tough. <g> >(actually, that was Shammie, not me.) Wrong! BONK! It was Arlie. I'm the one sick of the catsuits, not of Seven.

2000-02-21 00:00:00 - Re: "Collective" -SPOILERS - (Michele <belanna@uswest.net>)


Arlie wrote: > > >>> But dramatically, it > > seemed unbalanced to me, to put our heroes in peril that way...then never > show > > them again. > > They realized that they're not all *that* interesting... (maybe there > *is* hope for these writers after all...) :-) << > > Would've been more interesting than Seven and the Borg brats. > > It bugs me, how they make everyone else look stupid and useless, just to make > Seven look good. Chakotay, Paris, and Neelix did nothing in this episode, > except be helpless damsels in distress. This wouldn't have happened in earlier > seasons. They would have done something to aid in their own rescue. > > Harry was worse than useless, really. He looked good in his harness and did > all the right things (on orders from Janeway and Tuvok), but ended up screwing > things up for Seven. If he had just continued napping in his Jeffries Tube, > she could've fixed the cube and the brats would have gone their merry way. > Instead, they assumed Seven had betrayed them when they caught Harry. > > The entire Voyager crew exists only to get in Seven's way, so she doesn't solve > the problem before the hour is up. :-P > > >> Yeah, he and Tim really always draw that kind of job. Tim had to lie > around in that blue pajama for an entire act of "Riddles"! << > > Does make you wonder if they made somebody mad. <g> It's been noted on The > X-Files that whenever the producers are mad at David Duchovny, you get a lot of > episodes where Mulder is wet, cold, and/or naked in a coma! > > > > > -- Arlie I have to agree with everything you said.

2000-02-22 00:00:00 - Re: "Collective" -SPOILERS - (Michele <belanna@uswest.net>)


They did a good job of surviving without the borg drone. they did not need to add her to the crew in my opinion. They could have kept kes would be 7 or 8 now. I think they were a great crew before the seven hour began. I agree on the harry thing, and I think tuvok did say something. Juli17 wrote: > > > > >>>> Harry was worse than useless, really. He looked good in his harness and > >did > >> all the right things (on orders from Janeway and Tuvok), but ended up > >screwing > >> things up for Seven. > > > >because of his playing cards... that's how the girl found him... << > > > >I don't buy it. Suddenly, the girl decides it's time to search the whole > >Borg > >cube for playing cards? Obviously, something else put her on Harry's trail. > >Maybe the fact that he was moving around in the Borg ship, rather than lying > >still in his own. There must be sensors of some kind. > > > >The cards might well have slowed the girl down, since she stopped to retrieve > >them. He should've dropped a few more. > > > > Actually I thought the card thing was a stupid thing for Harry to do. It was > like leaving a trail leading from the Delta Flyer to himself. All the girl had > to do was follow it. And why would Harry *want* to find his way back to the > Delta Flyer anyway? Once the Borg kiddies become alerted to his presence the > very first place they're going to look for him is on the Delta Flyer. He > should have been planning to lay low once he completed his sabotage, and wait > for Voyager to beam him out. > > Tuvok should have recognized that Harry leaving a trail behind him wasn't too > bright given the whole concept is that Harry doesn't his presence detected. He > suffers too. > > I agree the away team barely tried to save themselves after Tom's half-hearted > attempt got him zapped by the Borg girl (she was easily the scariest one of the > bunch with her blank expression while she's zapping Tom and then confonting > Harry). Janeway risking herself by coming to the Borg cube personally while > her first officer is also a prisoner there wasn't too bright either. Everyone > in this episode acted stupidly or was helpless, except the doctor and B'Elanna. > They must have realized this is a Seven episode and being in Seven's near > vicinity during one of her episodes often has a detrimental effect on anyone > else's intelligence and ability, Starfleet trained or not. So they wisely > elected to stay on Voyager. > > Seven once again saves the day while everyone else can't seem to get their act > together. Ho hum. How'd they survive so long without her? > > Julie

2000-02-22 00:00:00 - Re: "Collective" -SPOILERS - (arlie88@aol.comNoSpam)


>> > It bugs me, how they make everyone else look stupid and useless, just to make > Seven look good. Chakotay, Paris, and Neelix did nothing in this episode, > except be helpless damsels in distress. This wouldn't have happened in earlier > seasons. They would have done something to aid in their own rescue. > *these* three? Maybe Neelix, but Tommy and Chucky????? << Yes. They've been known to be heroic in the past. They hardly even tried here. >>> Harry was worse than useless, really. He looked good in his harness and did > all the right things (on orders from Janeway and Tuvok), but ended up screwing > things up for Seven. because of his playing cards... that's how the girl found him... << I don't buy it. Suddenly, the girl decides it's time to search the whole Borg cube for playing cards? Obviously, something else put her on Harry's trail. Maybe the fact that he was moving around in the Borg ship, rather than lying still in his own. There must be sensors of some kind. The cards might well have slowed the girl down, since she stopped to retrieve them. He should've dropped a few more. >> naked in a coma? That's something they have *not* tried on our boys yet :-) << Wasn't Chuckles naked in a coma in "Cathexis"? There was blanket over most of him, than heaven. ;-) -- Arlie

2000-02-22 00:00:00 - Re: "Collective" -SPOILERS - (Julianna Feigl <glacierqueen.NO.spam@hotmail.com.Tuvok.rules>)


Arlie wrote: > > >>> But dramatically, it > > seemed unbalanced to me, to put our heroes in peril that way...then never > show > > them again. > > They realized that they're not all *that* interesting... (maybe there > *is* hope for these writers after all...) :-) << > > Would've been more interesting than Seven and the Borg brats. > especially since Seven was the star in last week's ep as well... > It bugs me, how they make everyone else look stupid and useless, just to make > Seven look good. Chakotay, Paris, and Neelix did nothing in this episode, > except be helpless damsels in distress. This wouldn't have happened in earlier > seasons. They would have done something to aid in their own rescue. > *these* three? Maybe Neelix, but Tommy and Chucky????? > Harry was worse than useless, really. He looked good in his harness and did > all the right things (on orders from Janeway and Tuvok), but ended up screwing > things up for Seven. because of his playing cards... that's how the girl found him... > If he had just continued napping in his Jeffries Tube, > she could've fixed the cube and the brats would have gone their merry way. > Instead, they assumed Seven had betrayed them when they caught Harry. > > The entire Voyager crew exists only to get in Seven's way, so she doesn't solve > the problem before the hour is up. :-P well... before she came aboard Chucky and Tommy made things difficult for Janeway, now they make things difficult for Seven - what's the difference for *them*? <vbeg> > >> Yeah, he and Tim really always draw that kind of job. Tim had to lie > around in that blue pajama for an entire act of "Riddles"! << > > Does make you wonder if they made somebody mad. <g> It's been noted on The > X-Files that whenever the producers are mad at David Duchovny, you get a lot of > episodes where Mulder is wet, cold, and/or naked in a coma! > naked in a coma? That's something they have *not* tried on our boys yet :-) Julianna -------- Tuvok: The main reason to watch Voyager!

2000-02-23 00:00:00 - Re: "Collective" -SPOILERS - (arlie88@aol.comNoSpam)


>> "Parturition"? Tommy and NEelix sitting in the cave, waiting for rescue? << And saving that darling little baby alien. >> "Maneuvers"? Chucky getting abducted, tortured and deprived of some DNA for experimental use, eventually getting rescued? << Ugh, I try not to think about that episode. Beltran was particularly bad in that one. I was starting to wish they'd hurry up and kill him! <g> >>> They hardly even tried > here. it's not the first time, though... << Not the first time since Seven came aboard, anyway.... >> She probably had never before seen cards. When she noticed the first one lying around somewhere she knew something was wrong and followed the trail. << Since when do Borg notice anything that's not attacking them? Obviously, the writers just thought it would be really cool to tie the cards from the poker game into the rest of the action. >> (shrugs) Who wants to see Chucky naked? Though "in a coma" pretty much describes his normal attitude... << That's right, you think "Cathexis" is one of his finest performances, right? <g> -- Arlie

2000-02-23 00:00:00 - Re: "Collective" -SPOILERS - (Julianna Feigl <glacierqueen.NO.spam@hotmail.comTuvok.rules>)


Michele wrote: > > that is no excuse and he is vulcan. Spock would have not let > him do that. > Spock does make mistakes as well... more often than not when he's worried about somebody :-) Julianna -------- Tuvok: The main reason to watch Voyager!

2000-02-23 00:00:00 - Re: "Collective" -SPOILERS - (Julianna Feigl <glacierqueen.NO.spam@hotmail.comTuvok.rules>)


Michele wrote: > > he is a starfleet officer, he should have told kim that it > was a stupid idea. > He obviously was too preoccupied - he couldn't think straight :-) Julianna -------- Tuvok: The main reason to watch Voyager!

2000-02-23 00:00:00 - Re: "Collective" -SPOILERS - (Michele <belanna@uswest.net>)


that is no excuse and he is vulcan. Spock would have not let him do that. Julianna Feigl wrote: > > Michele wrote: > > > > he is a starfleet officer, he should have told kim that it > > was a stupid idea. > > > > He obviously was too preoccupied - he couldn't think straight :-) > > Julianna > -------- > > Tuvok: > The main reason to watch Voyager!

2000-02-23 00:00:00 - Re: "Collective" -SPOILERS - (Julianna Feigl <glacierqueen.NO.spam@hotmail.comTuvok.rules>)


Arlie wrote: > > >> > It bugs me, how they make everyone else look stupid and useless, just to > make > > Seven look good. Chakotay, Paris, and Neelix did nothing in this episode, > > except be helpless damsels in distress. This wouldn't have happened in > earlier > > seasons. They would have done something to aid in their own rescue. > > > > *these* three? Maybe Neelix, but Tommy and Chucky????? << > > Yes. They've been known to be heroic in the past. "Parturition"? Tommy and NEelix sitting in the cave, waiting for rescue? "Maneuvers"? Chucky getting abducted, tortured and deprived of some DNA for experimental use, eventually getting rescued? > They hardly even tried > here. it's not the first time, though... > >>> Harry was worse than useless, really. He looked good in his harness and > did > > all the right things (on orders from Janeway and Tuvok), but ended up > screwing > > things up for Seven. > > because of his playing cards... that's how the girl found him... << > > I don't buy it. Suddenly, the girl decides it's time to search the whole Borg > cube for playing cards? She probably had never before seen cards. When she noticed the first one lying around somewhere she knew something was wrong and followed the trail. > Obviously, something else put her on Harry's trail. > Maybe the fact that he was moving around in the Borg ship, rather than lying > still in his own. There must be sensors of some kind. Maybe that as well, but if she had used sensors she might have arrived at Harry's location from a different direction, not following his route with the help of the cards. > The cards might well have slowed the girl down, since she stopped to retrieve > them. He should've dropped a few more. Or less... to confuse her and make her try various ways at crossroads > >> naked in a coma? That's something they have *not* tried on our boys yet > :-) << > > Wasn't Chuckles naked in a coma in "Cathexis"? There was blanket over most of > him, thank heaven. ;-) > (shrugs) Who wants to see Chucky naked? Though "in a coma" pretty much describes his normal attitude... Julianna -------- Tuvok: The main reason to watch Voyager!

2000-02-23 00:00:00 - Re: "Collective" -SPOILERS - (Julianna Feigl <glacierqueen.NO.spam@hotmail.comTuvok.rules>)


Juli17 wrote: > > Tuvok should have recognized that Harry leaving a trail behind him wasn't too > bright given the whole concept is that Harry doesn't his presence detected. He > suffers too. > That Vulcan is just too emotional: His best buddy Neelix is a hostage, his good friend Seven is dealing with the Borg-kiddies, and his kal-to buddy Harry is injured and in danger of being taken hostage as well - all three threatened with possible assimilation if something goes wrong - and the man completely loses his logic and starts making mistakes :-) Julianna -------- Tuvok: The main reason to watch Voyager!

2000-02-23 00:00:00 - Re: "Collective" -SPOILERS - (Michele <belanna@uswest.net>)


he is a starfleet officer, he should have told kim that it was a stupid idea. Julianna Feigl wrote: > > Juli17 wrote: > > > > > Tuvok should have recognized that Harry leaving a trail behind him wasn't too > > bright given the whole concept is that Harry doesn't his presence detected. He > > suffers too. > > > > That Vulcan is just too emotional: His best buddy Neelix is a hostage, > his good friend Seven is dealing with the Borg-kiddies, and his kal-to > buddy Harry is injured and in danger of being taken hostage as well - > all three threatened with possible assimilation if something goes wrong > - and the man completely loses his logic and starts making mistakes :-) > > Julianna > -------- > > Tuvok: > The main reason to watch Voyager!

2000-02-23 00:00:00 - Re: "Collective" -SPOILERS - (arlie88@aol.comNoSpam)


>> Actually I thought the card thing was a stupid thing for Harry to do. It was like leaving a trail leading from the Delta Flyer to himself. All the girl had to do was follow it. << I thought it was stupid all around. Why not just use a @#$% tricorder and map the place? But given that he *did* leave a trail of breadcrumbs, it's lame to think the Borglet would find him that way. Seven, a full-grown drone, didn't even think to look for footprints when she was trying to track someone on the Demon planet. And it makes sense; Borg are high-tech people. You don't expect people to leave marks behind them in a ship, so why even bother to look for them? Obviously, they jus thought it would look cool if Harry left those cards around. And they wanted the little girl to be able to compare Seven to the Queen of Hearts. >> And why would Harry *want* to find his way back to the Delta Flyer anyway? << He knew Tom would never forgive him if he came home without it? <g> >> They must have realized this is a Seven episode and being in Seven's near vicinity during one of her episodes often has a detrimental effect on anyone else's intelligence and ability, Starfleet trained or not. << Too true. Their IQs have dropped 30 points since she came aboard. -- Arlie

2000-02-23 00:00:00 - Re: "Collective" -SPOILERS - (juli17@aol.com)


> >>>> Harry was worse than useless, really. He looked good in his harness and >did >> all the right things (on orders from Janeway and Tuvok), but ended up >screwing >> things up for Seven. > >because of his playing cards... that's how the girl found him... << > >I don't buy it. Suddenly, the girl decides it's time to search the whole >Borg >cube for playing cards? Obviously, something else put her on Harry's trail. >Maybe the fact that he was moving around in the Borg ship, rather than lying >still in his own. There must be sensors of some kind. > >The cards might well have slowed the girl down, since she stopped to retrieve >them. He should've dropped a few more. > Actually I thought the card thing was a stupid thing for Harry to do. It was like leaving a trail leading from the Delta Flyer to himself. All the girl had to do was follow it. And why would Harry *want* to find his way back to the Delta Flyer anyway? Once the Borg kiddies become alerted to his presence the very first place they're going to look for him is on the Delta Flyer. He should have been planning to lay low once he completed his sabotage, and wait for Voyager to beam him out. Tuvok should have recognized that Harry leaving a trail behind him wasn't too bright given the whole concept is that Harry doesn't his presence detected. He suffers too. I agree the away team barely tried to save themselves after Tom's half-hearted attempt got him zapped by the Borg girl (she was easily the scariest one of the bunch with her blank expression while she's zapping Tom and then confonting Harry). Janeway risking herself by coming to the Borg cube personally while her first officer is also a prisoner there wasn't too bright either. Everyone in this episode acted stupidly or was helpless, except the doctor and B'Elanna. They must have realized this is a Seven episode and being in Seven's near vicinity during one of her episodes often has a detrimental effect on anyone else's intelligence and ability, Starfleet trained or not. So they wisely elected to stay on Voyager. Seven once again saves the day while everyone else can't seem to get their act together. Ho hum. How'd they survive so long without her? Julie

2000-02-24 00:00:00 - Re: "Collective" -SPOILERS - (Julianna Feigl <glacierqueen.NOspam@hotmail.comTuvok.rules>)


Arlie wrote: > > >> "Parturition"? Tommy and NEelix sitting in the cave, waiting for rescue? << > > And saving that darling little baby alien. > after endangering it in the first place :-) (but, ya know, I liked that little one *much* better than I like Naomi and the Borglets combined!) > >> "Maneuvers"? Chucky getting abducted, tortured and deprived of some DNA > for experimental use, eventually getting rescued? << > > Ugh, I try not to think about that episode. Beltran was particularly bad in > that one. I was starting to wish they'd hurry up and kill him! <g> Oh YES!!!!!!! > >>> They hardly even tried > > here. > > it's not the first time, though... << > > Not the first time since Seven came aboard, anyway.... > and there had been cases before she came aboard (see above) > >> She probably had never before seen cards. When she noticed the first one > lying around somewhere she knew something was wrong and followed the > trail. << > > Since when do Borg notice anything that's not attacking them? > they were only partly assimilated and had been prematurely ejected from the maturation chambers... > Obviously, the writers just thought it would be really cool to tie the cards > from the poker game into the rest of the action. > that too.... (yawn!) > >> (shrugs) Who wants to see Chucky naked? Though "in a coma" pretty much > describes his normal attitude... << > > That's right, you think "Cathexis" is one of his finest performances, right? > <g> Definitely my favorite Chucky-ep :-) Julianna -------- Tuvok: The main reason to watch Voyager!